1939 Proof Jefferson

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  1. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Going through some of my raw coins this morning I ran across this 39 Jefferson proof. How ,or when it happen I have no idea...however noticed a staple scratch on the obv. field under ER in Liberty. I also noticed a carbon spot dead center of his coat. :(
    On the rev. I'm seeing some split serifs on the lettering.
    Trying to be objective sometimes is hard when you find a $200 +/- coin in your collection that has these issues. So Let's hear your take on this....Will she grade clean? is the doubling a DDR? 1939 Jefferson proof #1.jpg 1939 Jefferson proof #2.jpg 1939 Proof Jefferson #3.jpg 1939 PfJefferson obv. 216.jpg 1939 Proof Jefferson rev 216.jpg
     
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  3. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    I don't think she'll grade cleanly... sorry, my friend. Too bad about that scratch!

    Purdy coin, though.

    I *do* think it's a DDR, but I defer to the experts.
     
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  4. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Thats a close one, on both accounts.
    I see the split serifs, whats strange is only some of the letters appear to have them.
    So idk if thats a manufacture of 2 strikes or not. I will give a solid maybe.
    The staple scratch seems like a coin flip, but since its a proof coin i wanna say they will detail it.
     
  5. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    Clean grade no doubled die.
    Small staple scratches are common on older proofs.
     
  6. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I agree with DDR-006. Just checking does it have the wavy steps, and the die scratches
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  8. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Nice looking coin...probably would grade clean and low with the scratch...is it worth the grading fees?
     
  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I say it's an easy $200 coin
     
  10. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    I did that to a 1892 Barber half TDR, man was I upset.:arghh:
     
  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    @Pickin and Grinin @Rick Stachowski

    I don't see the die scratches however yes all the other images match up 100%.
    That said polished die? Early die state?
    I'm at a loss as I will send it in and run the risk of it getting a detail grade, if you two think it's worth the variety shot.

    And maybe a possibly of a new sub variety as the windows a couple have split corners . Or show doubling.
     
  12. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Coneca start out on stage c, no A or B and you should be fine to send in .. I even check the other year that matches this reverse and it's start on stage c too ...
     
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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    The E PLURIBUS looks to be a perfect match. It could be a mid or earlier die state.
    The die scratches could be less significant or not present.
     
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  14. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Here's a little info on that Obverse Die too, it's from Coneca ..

    Designation:
    SD-1-O-V-CCW from K-5 (P, D, S, PR)

    Description: Medium spread on TRUST and light on LIB of LIBERTY

    The 1939 master die was doubled; a class V doubled master die. It was then used to create a hub from which the last two digits (39) were removed. That modified hub was then used to make a master die in which the last two digits (40) were engraved. It was used in subsequent years (1941-1944, 1946-1956, 1959-1964) by engraving into the master die the appropriate last two digits.
     
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  15. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys for your input.....it's hard at time to be objective about one of your own coins. As you sometime see what you wish to see rather than what is there.
    Next go round to Anacs I will give her a shot and see what happens . Thanks for everyone's input.
     
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  16. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    Very nice. Every Bit of $200.00 and on a good day $275.00.
     
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  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Good research. Thanks good info. I was wondering about the obv. also. But being a proof I thought some could be reflection.
     
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