1939 Nicely Toned Jefferson !!!! What would you say is the grade?? Experts only

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  1. doubledieking18

    doubledieking18 New Member

    1939 Nicely Toned Jefferson!!!! What would you grade this????[​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  3. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Toning can hide too many issues to be sure but I would guess high AU to low MS depending on how the coin looks in hand. I would lean towards low MS (62 to 64)
     
  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    AU. Might go MS-62
     
  5. urbanchemist

    urbanchemist US/WORLD CURRENCY JUNKIE

    lol only experts can reply to your post. come on now. :headbang::bangg::pointnlaugh:
     
  6. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    If you require experts only, PCGS will give you their opinion for a fee.
     
  7. doubledieking18

    doubledieking18 New Member

    why waste your time posting a comment like that!!!!:devil: It only shows your ignorance for the fact that only those experienced in grading would actually know, and I was simply seeking opinion!!!!
     
  8. urbanchemist

    urbanchemist US/WORLD CURRENCY JUNKIE


    why not. it only took me 5 seconds.
     
  9. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    you have presented yourself as the doubledieking, and yet most of what you have posted as doubled dies or errors haven't been either. Now you come on and tell us you only want to hear from the experts. There have been experts replying to many of your posts only to have you insinuate that they don't know what they are saying. I was merely suggesting where you might find experts that you would believe.

    Richard
     
  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The heck with all the expert stuff. Just guess the grade.
    It's not a bad looking coin. The toning makes me wonder a bit.
     
  11. doubledieking18

    doubledieking18 New Member

    Why be rude!!!! This is a coin forum not a talk show !!" save the drama and live" i figure if you have nothing to say pertaining to the post then don't post!!!!!
     
  12. bsowa1029

    bsowa1029 Franklin Half Addict

    Toning looks fishy. AU58 probably -- maybe a 62 or 63 at absolute best.
     
  13. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    personally, I thought you were being rude when you took the "experts only" attitude. People on this forum learn by trying to grade a coin like this and then hearing what others have to say about their opinion on the coin. You have told them "don't bother"

    Since you asked I too would say that this is POSSIBLY low MS. the reasons being that not only is it difficult with the toning to see details but you also have glare occurring on some of the focal points that would show the small amounts of wear that would prevent the MS grade. If you felt I was being rude, sorry, but you are the one that has presented himself as an expert in a field that I specialize in. So far you have not proven to be so.
     
  14. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Guys - stick to the topic!
     
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  16. doubledieking18

    doubledieking18 New Member

    I appreciate all the opinions given on the grade as I can admit I' am still learning myself !!!:yes:
     
  17. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Otay.

    :)


    Okay, Kingy


    insightful.
     
  18. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    How much are you paying experts for their opinion(s) on this? Also, what are you defining as the set of qualifiers for what would make one an expert?

    Personally, I would think experts would be the individuals whom we pay for their opinions on the grades of coins. If that's the case, I see no reasonable explanation for an expert to freely give away valuable information for which they are paid. That would be akin to begging/panhandling.

    Anyway, in my thoroughly non-expert opinion, the coin would grade in a specific range of AU55-MS62. The hits on the bust would prevent a grade above MS63, and the hit on the cheek would push it down at least another half grade to the MS62+ area. Coupled with the poorly struck obverse, and you're looking at a maximum grade of MS62.

    From that point, I assume that the gloss on the jaw is from rub and not some strange event of highly struck obverse coupled with poorly struck reverse. That would indicate the coin was circulated for a bit. Personally, I'd say AU58, but I'm no expert.

    On the flip-side, I could see it getting an AU details (no grade) due to the suspect toning on only the high points of the obverse.
     
  19. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    better insightful than incite full....
     
  20. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  21. CBJesse

    CBJesse Capped Bust Fanactic

    I'm thinking a grade of AU Details, artificial toning.
     
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