1936 P Lincoln

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by jeankay, Jun 11, 2008.

  1. jeankay

    jeankay Coin Hoarder

    Does anyone know if this is an error?
    If so, which classification would it be?

    jeankay
     

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  3. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

  4. Harryj

    Harryj Supporter**

    Awesome jeankay!!! Nice find, Congrats.
     
  5. jeankay

    jeankay Coin Hoarder

    I wasn't expecting those responses!

    Would you believe it if I told you this came from a lot of 500 pre-1940 coins I won on ebay?

    Thanks everyone! Yipppeeeeee! Now I am having fun!!!!

    What can I do about keeping the verdigris from getting worse?

    jeankay
     
  6. Harryj

    Harryj Supporter**

    Nothing. Its not that bad, maybe separate it from other coins. Check with others for possible solutions for the verdigris, however DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CLEAN IT NOW or anytime soon. Nice find!!!
     
  7. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Jeankay,

    Nice find! You can place the coin in some acetone then lightly go over the areas where the verdrgris is located with a wooden toothpick. This should remove much if not all of the verdigris and unless you really bare down on the coin with the toothpick, it should not harm it in any way. You can also use the thorn of a Rose still attached to a piece of stem, to work out the verdigris from the hard to get to areas.


    Frank
     
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    JeanKay:
    Very nice!
    I have been searchng for one for quite a while.
    (nope, never found one.)

    Congrats!
     
  9. jeankay

    jeankay Coin Hoarder

    That 1936 p Lincoln

    Hi everybody,

    The great and helpful responses from you prompted me to take this another step forward with these cruddy coins. Since finding the aforementioned 1936P-1DO-001 (we think) I have found four more coins that may be from similar dies. The four 36p's have a normal look to the letters and date but have the leg of the R in Liberty broken just below the 'knee'.
    The fifth cent has a bold Liberty and date on which I cannot detect doubling as they are worn quite a lot, and it has normal R.

    Just wanted to update the search which has finished off all the 36p coins I can find just waiting for my attention.

    Thanks everyone!
    jeankay
     
  10. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Jean Kay,
    Heres what I have found:


    1936-P LC.DDO#002
    Coneca 2-0-V
    FS #1-015
    Breen #2135
    Rarity scale 6
    Triple die obverse.

    " This die was hubbed from a working die which was missing the left leg of the letter R of Liberty. " Tougher to find than it's counterpart, DDO-001


    The half break at the " R " in Liberty gives it away. I had a chance to get the books out today, and this is straight from my Wexler/Flynn " The Authoritave Referance on Lincoln Cents"

    I'll send you pics via email because the book is copyrighted.
     
  11. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Hey, congrats! That's a tough variety, looks like you hit it pretty nice! VEry nice job, keep searching!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Nice find jeankay , what power loop do you use . Stainless gave me a 10x I haven't got it yet . I s that strong enough to find these varieties with , or should I get a stronger one .
    rzage
     
  13. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    a 10 X will definitely be strong enough, I use 10 and 15. Great find Jeankay
    also..
    man stainless is just giving stuff away!
     
  14. jeankay

    jeankay Coin Hoarder

    For the cursory search I use a large lensed 10X, about 40mm across.. it isn't clear all the way to the edges so sometimes I think I have found a real oddity. This magnifier makes it possible to view an entire coin all at one time. For closer work I use a 15x. These two magnifiers are bulky and won't fit in most pockets. I got these in a large set of magnifiers on ebay. For very fine search close-ups I use a 10X loupe with a better quality magnification.
    Thanks for checking this out... it was quite an exciting evening for me last night.
    Nearly wore me out.

    Oh, since last night Arizona Jack found the proper references for the 36p... being a 1936-P LC DDO#002.. and it is not the 001 I had tried to attribute to it.

    jeankay
     
  15. jeankay

    jeankay Coin Hoarder

    Hey Mr. Arizona!
    Thanks for the information. I do not have that book yet, but I did pick up "A quick reference to the top Lincoln cent Die Varieties" by Gary Wagnon, Karen Peterson, and Kevin Flynn... it has the exact coin on page 26. And, it says it is more difficult to find than the DDO-001... I can hardly believe that one...
    They give it a Class IV & VIII+V, Offset & Tilt+ Pivot Doubling. Supposedly showing minor doubling on RUST of Trust... Overall Rarity of URS.

    Wow! Now coin-collecting is getting to be FUN. Who would've known?

    jeankay
     
  16. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Well then Mrs JeanKay, you will not need my pics, you have just bought an excellent book !!!!

    :D
     
  17. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Now Jack, please correct me if I am wrong! If I remember correctly, the Working Die with the missing left leg of the "R" was used to make several Dies which resulted in the Doubled Die Dies #1 and #2 and normal (non-Doubled Die) Dies that also had the missing left leg of the "R". Therefore, when folks see the missing left leg of the "R" on a 1936-P Lincoln Cent, they automatically assume that it is a Doubled Die which is not always the case.


    Frank
     
  18. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    It does not say so in the Wexler book Frank. I'll hunt it down again this weekend, as Im off to work right now.
     
  19. Bone Head

    Bone Head Senior Member

    '36 Broken "R" diagnostic

    Heres pics of my "36" broken 'R',... not the good one.
     

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  20. Bone Head

    Bone Head Senior Member

    oops!
     

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  21. alpha480v

    alpha480v Senior Member

    Nice find! I have been looking for one forever.
     
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