1935 experimental silver cert.

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by ziggy9, Mar 27, 2007.

  1. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    HI
    I've been lurking here for a few weeks absorbing info and decided it was time to sign up.
    I was going through some old silver certs. and discovered that one is a "1935 experimental" in pristine condition.. no bends, folds, wrinkles or stains. The question is this Who would be best to send this to for grading?
    Thanks
    Ziggy
     
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  3. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper



    Hello Ziggy... welcome to the fourm. Glad you decided to join!!
    As for who you should send it to...well there are several choices and I suggest you research the top 3 and decide for your self.

    Here they are; PCGS (pape money) CGA, PGM.

    Good luck and post a pic of that fine note will ya??


    RickieB
     
  4. der_meister77

    der_meister77 Senior Member

    Welcome to the forum!
     
  5. xeno108

    xeno108 New Member

    what's the serial number? how low is it?? should post a picture... i love sc's
     
  6. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Ziggy,welcome aboard.You will learn a lot here from both the old & new hands.

    Aidan.
     
  7. SanMiguel

    SanMiguel - pro patria vigilans -

    great find! is it one of the S/R notes, or one of the AB blocks?

    as far as PCGS, PMG (NGC), and CGA...they all have their pluses and minuses. none of them are perfect, but you'll still find people who are fiercely loyal to one brand or another. just from observation...you'll get more money reselling your note if its in a PCGS holder. ie- a PCGS gem 66 would sell at auction for slightly more than a PMG gem 66. no idea why. the same thing happens with their coins.
     
  8. TommyNumis

    TommyNumis New Member

    Why bother getting it graded? if you like the note just put it in a protective sleeve and hold on to it. Save the money you'd spend on grading for your next purchase.
     
  9. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    trying to upload scans of cert. hope this works
     

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  10. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    Very nice ! I would get that graded with PCGS, if you are going to get it graded at all.
     
  11. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    Nice looking note-
     
  12. xeno108

    xeno108 New Member

    looks nice... picture is a little tiny tho
     
  13. TommyNumis

    TommyNumis New Member

    Hard to tell from the pics as they are very small, but that does not appear to be an experimental note, just a plain old silver cert. Still a nice note but the cost of grading would probably cost more then the note is worth.
     
  14. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Dumb question from a non-paper collector who occasionally snoops in this forum - What is an "experimental" silver certificate[​IMG]
     
  15. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    It refers to bills (mostly if not all one dollar bills) that are used for different experiements.

    Like one experiment was to test different ratios of cotton and linen used in the paper in 1928 and 1937.

    One was done in 1942 to test diiferent types of paper. In case they couldnt get the right paper because of war.

    Then there was the web-fed press debacle. This is where they tried to go fom a 32 sheet print to continous feed printing. For various reasons such as machines being crap and the quality being low...they ended that...

    I am sure there were others, these are the few I read about.
     
  16. SanMiguel

    SanMiguel - pro patria vigilans -

    i'm gonna have to agree with tommy. the serial number looks to me like A06814426A.

    [​IMG]

    here's a breakdown of silver certificate experimental notes:

    experiment 1, 1933
    series 1928A, 1928B
    X - B, Y - B serial number blocks (experimental)
    Z - B block (control group)

    experiment 2, 1937
    series 1935
    A - B block A00000001B-A06180000B (experimental)
    B - B block B00000001B-B03300000B (experimental)
    C - B block C00000001B-C03300000B (control)

    experiment 3, 1942
    series 1935A
    S - C block S73884001C-S75068000C S (experimental, red S for "special paper")
    S - C block S70884001C-S72068000C R (control, red R for "regular paper")

    all the tests were inconclusive. the experimental paper blends showed wear at around the same rate as the regular paper blends.
     
  17. LSM

    LSM Collector

    Lets see if this explanation will help. The experimental notes tested different types of paper during WW II. The experimental notes where overprinted with a large red S in the lower right corner, while a control group on regular paper was printed with a large red R in the same location. There where 1,184,000 of each type printed and the experiment was inconclusive.

    Lou
     
  18. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*


    I questioned that as well when looking up, but the experimental notes are the only ones I found that have the dat twice, one in the upper left and one in the lower right, instead of to the left of and below the blue seal. If this note is something else and someone could help me with identification it would be appreciated!
    Ziggy
     
  19. SanMiguel

    SanMiguel - pro patria vigilans -

  20. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    My bad
    I didn't find anything about it on the search I ran, the only one that looked loke it was the experimental. Guess I jumped to conclusions.
    Thanks for the identification
    Ziggy
     
  21. tradernick

    tradernick Coin Hoarder

    When used regarding silver certificates, the term "Experimental Notes" normally refers to the R & S notes, the purpose of which was just what someone already said...an experiement with a different type of paper to compare wear resistance, etc. No change in paper was made because of the experiement. R/S notes are most often found in low grades, are very desirable in XF and up, and sell for over greensheet prices practically all the time (even the low grade ones).
    tradernick
     
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