1934A $10 Fed star note question for the experts...

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  1. MitchBailey

    MitchBailey Active Member

    I have 3 1934A $10 stars with the serials ending in 5,6 and 8 (not single digit serials, I wish). Almost consecutive. My question is, the face plates are E89, A89 and B89, and the back plates are 678,680 and 680, why does this occur on consecutive notes?
     
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  3. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    I believe this series was printed and distributed from the mid to late 30’s through the mid 40’s on 12-subject sheets. I’m guessing back plates were used randomly and face plates should have been alphabetically consecutive. Maybe @Numbers will see this thread and chime in.
     
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  4. Numbers

    Numbers Senior Member

    They were printed in 12-subject sheets, yes. Also, the serialling worked very differently than it does today: the sheets were consecutive-numbered rather than skip-numbered.

    Nowadays, a pack of 100 consecutive notes come from 100 different sheets--the sheets are numbered in such a way that a stack of 100 sheets can be cut directly into a bunch of 100-note packs, with no need to sort the notes into order after cutting. So the top sheet of the stack might contain serial numbers 1, 101, 201, 301, and so forth.

    In the 12-subject era, the serialling was consecutive down each half of the sheet, so the sheet that contained serial number 1 (in position A) would also contain 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (in positions B through F). Most of the time, though, the other side of the sheet (positions G through L) would *not* get serials 7-12; those would be on the A-through-F side of the next sheet.

    The result is that if you get a pack of consecutive new notes, you get a cycle of plate positions that looks like either A-B-C-D-E-F-A-... or G-H-I-J-K-L-G-...; you don't generally get all twelve positions in the same pack. Six consecutive notes all come from the same sheet, so they all have the same face plate and back plate numbers. But whenever the position jumps from F back to A, or L back to G, you've switched to a new sheet, and the plate numbers may change.

    Most of the intaglio presses of that era used four plates in rotation, so you expect to see four different plate numbers (in a span of 24 notes) before they start to repeat. But the sheets were inspected after the back printing, and again after the face printing, and defective sheets were removed at each stage--so it's not unusual to see a sequence of plate numbers that doesn't stay perfectly in rotation.

    In the case of the OP's notes, the pile of sheets that went through the serialling press apparently had two sheets in a row with face plate 89, but they had different back plates, 678 and 680. So the positions and plate numbers of twelve consecutive notes would have been

    A89 / 678
    B89 / 678
    C89 / 678
    D89 / 678
    E89 / 678
    F89 / 678
    A89 / 680
    B89 / 680

    C89 / 680
    D89 / 680
    E89 / 680
    F89 / 680

    and then the next note after that would have been position A of the next sheet, and both the face plate and back plate numbers might have changed again (or might not).

    Clear as mud? :confused:
     
  5. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    Thanks @Numbers , I had a feeling you would know.
     
  6. MitchBailey

    MitchBailey Active Member

    Thanks Numbers and Steve for taking the time to explain this.
     
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