1932-D RPM quarter ?

Hey Guys
I bought a 1932-D quarter and I think it might have a RPM....sorry I can't get a good photo.
Does anyone know of a place online that I might can find a listing of RMP's for 1932-D quarters?
The RPM is NE and I'm sure that the coin is real....its raw.
This coin is going to be sold pretty soon as part of a set so I just want to make sure its nothing like a new RPM before I sell it.

Thanks---and sorry that I can get any good photos.

Speedy

 

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Never heard that there is one but there are error coins of almost everything nowadays. If your going to sell it then don't worry about it. They usually aren't worth to much more than a normal coin.

 

That is odd....I'm 100% sure its real as you can see the die polish lines around the mintmark...and that is what the counterfeit guides says to look for....also the mintmark is the right shape.
I'll keep on trying and maybe I'll get a photo...I didn't ask the dealer I bought it from about the RPM because he doesn't really know about that kind of thing...he says that if someone buys a coin and there is a RPM or VAM or such..that is good for them.

Hey Carl
Your right...they aren't worth much...but a NEW RPM might be worth something...and since I can't find a listing this just might be a new one.

Speedy

 

If it's in a set there will be very little difference to the buyer if that one coin is a RPM as long as it's real. The price won't vary by much. If in fact it is a RPM and you went to a coin show where there are error collectors you may actually make out with a higher price. However, then there would be a vacancy in the set you are trying to sell which may lower the price more than enough to warrant not selling it as an error coin.

 

Here is the best photo I can get....I was thinking about sending it off to ANACS or even PCI...since it is a better date.

Speedy

 

Speedy, I know that the MM's on these were often filled, but yours also doesn't appear to be as tall as I would expect.

Here is a picture of mine, see how the body of the D is taller than it is wide but when you include the serifs it forms the boxy shape that the guides talk about.

hmmm, as for the RPM, I don't think that is a good sign, these MMs have been studied extensively as a way to determine fakes and if there were any genuine RPMs then I'd expect CONECA to know of it/them.

 

Hey CT....from looking at photos in the PCGS grading guide mine looks to be the right size.
I might have the dealer send it to PCI since they only charge $8 I think.
As for the RPM...I would think CONECA to know too...but I guess they can't see all coins.

Speedy

 

Another point in the favor that this coin is real is that the Counterfiete guides talk how there is like a pond that the mintmark sits in...under 10x this show that clearly...I would think that the reason yours and mine don't look alot of alike is because that the RPM would make the MM look wider and such...the points of the D look funny and larger.

Speedy

 

Hi,
Not unusual as CONECA only lists what passes their way. For example, i have 65 attributed 1983 cents here that are all a new doubled die and I've had them for years. They don't have it listed. The same goes for other doubled dies on cents and halves that I have. If CONECA doesn't know about it, it doesnt get listed. This is why their poulation numbers are not accurate either. This is not to say that they do not do a great job, but they can't list everything as all varieties are not called to their attention.
Have Fun,
Bill
Have Fun,
Bill

 

Hi,
Honestly, this looks like it may be an added D look closely around the edge of the mintmark.
Bill

 

On a genuine piece, the mintmark tilts a little to the right
look at this one

http://www.wayneherndon.com/images/coins/25c1932Dp64rev.gif

 

Hi,
Counterfeiters know this and they make a small circular depression before they rest the added mintmark into the "pond" The RPM look may be the result of the metal having been moved on the right side of the manufactured depression before the mintmark was added. This coin doesn't seem to have the same amount of wear on the D as it does on the other parts of the reverse. It stands too high, in my humble opinion. Something just doesn't look right and the 1932 D and S washingtons are one of the most counterfeited US coins.

Bill

 

Thanks for the info Bill....the deal on this coin isn't done so I still can back out if needed.
I really like the coin so I hope that its real---I guess after I get my coins back from NGC I might mail these out to ANACS or PCI.
I don't like PCI's grading but they are cheaper and they seem to be good on finding fakes and such...and also if I send it to PCI I would be sending it though the dealer I bought it from so that might be better.

Speedy

 

Hi,
Me Again,

I put arrows pointing to what looks like raised edges around part of the D, The D looks like it is soldered on.
Bill

 

So what does this mean about my 32-D quarter....the photo you show here is Cave Trolls ??

Speedy

 

Speedy, I would back out, honestly, as the time involved with sending it to a slabber may cause your dealer to refuse taking it back. Everything about the coin looks bogus. Again, just one opinion, but the raised metal around the D is too obvious to ignore. I'd bring it back ASAP and spend my time looking for a better one. This one has too many negatives.
Bill

 

If that photos is cave trolls, then his is probably a fake. Lets see a view of yours with the ??RPM?? but with a little more arwea around it.
Yours still looks like a potential fake because of the RPM effect that often happens when the depression is made. The mintmark on yours does not appear to be at the right angle either. A common mistake on fakes as the counterfeiter usually tries to place the mintmark straight up and down as opposed to cocked a little to the right.
Bill

 

Speedy,
This one is yours. another thing that scares me about yours is the darker "square " that I outlined. You can see what I mean. Look at the area around the mintmark that is like a darker colored , tilted square. That just bothers me when it comes to the authentication of the piece. It is the metal itself and not just "grime" . The more I look at both of these 1932 d quarters, the more I am comncerned about there authenticity. This is the kind of thing I look for when authenticating a coin. You see a lot of this on 1916 D dimes and 1932 D and S quarters. After awhile, these things just glare out at you.
Bill

 

Here is another photo...

Well he would't back out....but I might anyhow.

Speedy