1924 D Lincoln Penny VF with die break

About 30 years ago I bought an old upright piano and took it apart to clean out the mice nests, candle wax and half dozen pennies that had worked their way between the keys. One of these pennies was a 1924 D in really great shape. Lincoln's facial features are sharp and all the wheat lines are present and sharp. It would probably be graded as VF...it is really in nice shape BUT it has a defect. I think the defect may make it worth more than what I'm seeing on eBay, etc. There is a crescent shaped defect below Lincoln's shoulder, I believe it is called a die break. That defect has resulted in very faded letters on the flip side opposite the die break. On that flip side, the P and L are there, but are faint and difficult to see. The L is also faint, but not to the degree that the other two letters. I took it into a coin store shortly after I found it (early-mid 1970's) and the fellow at the counter said he'd give me $26. I thanked him and left. I know what these pennies sell for on eBay, but what does a die break add to a coin like this? Thanks!

 

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About $25.99, evidently... Just kidding!

~AJ

 

A die break (crack) on one side of the coin would have nothing to do with the other
side of the coin. A flattened area opposite the mark on the other side of the coin
usually means impact damage. Clashed dies are something else, and any markings
on the opposite side are in the field of the coin not in the raised portions.

 

A pic would be of help.

 

I was thinking. Does it look like this?

This is called a cud die break. This happens when a piece of the die
breaks off. It might also show weakness in the area opposite on the reverse.
Kind of matches your descrption. Post a oic if you can. Pics always help.

Bruce

 

oic=pic

 

The picture of the coin you provided is VERY SIMILAR to the defect on my penny. The description of an area of weakness on the other side also fits.

My daughter has my digital camera and I will try to get it back in the next few days so I can post a picture of the coin. What do you feel a cud die break could do to the value of such a penny?

Thanks for the help.

 

1924 D Lincoln Penny die break - Picture

Hopefully these pictures will work. I actually SCANNED the penny...my camera being with my daughter. Hope what I've done will help. I've scanned photos to post on the Internet, but scanning a coin is a first for me. I can use my camera later if this doesn't work

 

I beg to differ with this statement. This appears very similar to a listing in "the Cud Book" as LC-24D-1, page 27 - the only listing for 1924D. There are folks who specifically collect cud coins and I've seen these go for a pretty penny on Ebay. Not to mention the fact that the 24D is a pretty scarce coin to begin with. I'd estimate the premium in the $10 to $20 range.

 

That is one reason I don't collect such things...why in the world would a cud raise the value....it should lower it or keep it the same if anything...
I agree that the 1924-D is a nice date...that is one I need to complete my wheat cent book (only 5 to go) but one without any cud!!!

Speedy

 

Well my digital camera didn't do any better than the scanner, so I took the penny up to the coin shop this morning and asked what kind of defect it was and it was confirmed that it was a cud. Back into my little coin book it goes. It has an adventure story that goes along with it and I plan to pass the penny along through the family along with my other coins. I also have a completely filled penny book with coins from 1909-1940. Most of them were from my Mother and I believe that they had originally been my Grandfather's (he was a serious coin collector). As a gift, my second hubby filled in the 5 coins that were not in the book that my Mom had given me.

The 1924 D penny got my collection started up again after my then husband (1st) had taken and sold off my original coin collection. My original collection got started in my teenaged years in the early 1960s. That took my heart out of collecting and I lost all interest. About a decade later, I found this penny in an old upright piano that I had bought for $75. After being in my possession for about a half dozen years, this little penny almost met the fate that my original collection did. It had been stolen by my ex in the early 1980's when he came to visit the kids while I was at work (they had been told to never let him in the house when I wasn't home, but he sweet taked them into letting him in). Shortly after his return to his place in Oklahoma, I had such a vivid dream that he had taken my penny, that I got out of bed to check that it was still there. It was GONE! I called him long distance in the middle of the night and demanded it back...he denied having it. I told him I was making a police report, and did (he had taken some other items as well). It showed up in the mail a few days later...post marked from the town he lived in.

He passed away last week and this week our grown children found some returned to me some things that he had. I received back some old pennies and an old coin board (from about 1938-40) that he probably took at the same time. Only a few pennies were in it, but all of the pennies that came back to me were common pennies with little value...which is probably why they were not sold off. It was going through all of the items that they brought back from out of state that perked up my interest in my old penny with a story...to find out just what kind of error coin it is. THANKS!!!

 

My initial post was in response to the statement that there is no premium attached to a cud coin. I don't agree with that and feel this coin would draw a premium from a collector of such coins. Cud prices seem to go with the size of the cud, greater value for larger cuds. This is a very small one but the premium could be less or more considering the rarity.

Some don't like the appearance and don't save them. I don't either but I certainly sell them for a premium when I find them.

 

One point to remember.....Speedy, GDJMSP......this IS the error forum. So whether you agree or not, some of in here may think more highly of a 1924 cud wheatie than a MS70 AGE simply because it not like all the others. Maybe some of us are subconciously reverting back to our childhood influences (Which of these things is not like the others? Which of these things is not the same? - Sesame Street)

Anyway, point being, differing thoughts and opinions are always welcome, just keep in mind which forum your responding too

Buffknut........thanks for sharing your coin, and particularly your story. I hope you can fill your books again quickly

 

1924D Lincoln Penny with Rotated Die

I read with interest the article about the 1924D Lincoln Penny with the die break. I purchased a 1924D penny recently on ebay with a rotated die of about 90 degrees. I purchased it for $19.50, which was cheaper than other 1924D pennies by a few bucks. It appears that at least this defect is making the coin worth a little less money in the market place than a 1924D without a defect. One cheer for quality workmanship I guess Phil

 

1924 wheat Penny

I have a 1924 Wheat penny with no mint mark, and in okay condition, however on the back side of it, one of the "N"s seems to be almost smeared. I dont know if its just from wear and tear, but it is the only letter affected. Any suggestions on if it is something, or just nothing??

thank you!

 

Welcome hotlipsneyes to the forum, (I'd like to know the why's of your username). A picture would definitely help here. It does sound from description that it is post mint damage.

 

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/hotlipsneyes/1924%20Wheat%20Penny/


here is the link to the photos that i uploaded to photobucket!