1923 Peace Dollar - can you folks help me out - grade? Is this the double tiara??

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by willymac, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. willymac

    willymac Member

    Thanks for all your help with the other coins this one is bugging me...

    I posted it in the error list, but maybe that was the wrong one...

    Have a great night folks...and thanks for your patience as I am still learning this stuff
     

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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It's probably an MS grade - I don't see any wear. I once collected the entire series of PDs. What looks like wear in the hair around the temple is often the result of a weak strike. You've got to go through a lot of these coins to cherry-pick ones with really good strikes. But it looks dipped - or is the pic a scan?
     
  4. willymac

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  5. John Anthony

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  6. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It definitely isn't the doubled tiara that John Anthony referenced, but it does appear to be a similar doubled die. Whether or not it has it's own assigned VAM number I do not know, I don't do VAMs. But if it doesn't it should.
     
  7. willymac

    willymac Member

    How would one go about figuring that out and getting it attributed? I dont see anything like it at VAMWORLD
     
  8. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I don't know anything about VAM's but if those scans are accurate, I think the coin is a solid MS64.
     
  9. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Yeah, it looks great to me. (It's one of the few series I know anything about.)

    If you submitted it to PCGS or NGC, wouldn't they attribute it on the slab? If it is indeed a hitherto undiscovered doubling, do they create new attributions?
     
  11. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I think ANACS is the only one attributing VAMs.
     
  12. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I don't know much about PCGS's system, but NGC uses what they call Variety Plus. It is not like the strike designations (FB, FH, FS, FT) which are automatically including in the regular grading submission. Rather, the submitter needs to tell NGC what registered variety in the Variety Plus program they are submitting and there is a $12 charge in addition to the grading fee. IIRC, NGC recognizes the TOP 50 VAMs in their Variety Plus program and I know that the 1923 Doubled Tiara is one of the top 50 VAMs. On the slab, it would be designated DDO VP-XXX. Here is an example for a Jefferson Nickel variety.

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