1922 Plain Cent

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by LostDutchman, Mar 28, 2013.

  1. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I just want to make sure I'm not losing my edge.

    I had a dealer who had stopped by to buy some coins wholesale... something that happens pretty regularly at the shop.

    He informed me that he thought this coin was not genuine.

    I am of the impression that this is a genuine die pair #2 example. "L" joined to the rim.... weak "IN GOD WE"... First 2 slightly weaker then the second...

    I just wanted to get the consensus of the group to make sure I'm not crazy...

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  3. Pi man

    Pi man Well-Known Member

    Seems legit to me, but then again, what do I know?
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Particularly weak obverse and more than its share of dings, but it looks real to me.
     
  5. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    That was kinda my thought as well. I guess the guy didn't eat his coin dealer Wheaties this morning.
     
  6. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    I see nothing that says it is not authentic to me as well. With that great pic I can see the metal flow lines close to the devices even with that amount of wear.
     
  7. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    I just wonder why a dealer would not send this in to get it certified....just wondering
     
  8. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    There you go.

    Matt, you asked the wrong question. You should have asked whether we'd buy it from you as an unauthenticated 1922 No-D. I think that dealer was telling you he's not going to take that risk.
     
  9. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I just bought it today (while the dealer was there in fact) so it's definitely going in to the grading company...

    To me this coin was a no brainer... I was just a little baffled by his response...
     
  10. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Back in the day, when we used to collect coins, I think I'd be a little baffled, too. We knew what we were doing. Today, it better be in the plastic, especially a coin like this, because we don't know what we're doing.
     
  11. jhinton

    jhinton Well-Known Member

    It looks ok to me as well, I would have been all over that.
     
  12. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    looks perfectly fine to me
     
  13. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    Looks good, but somehow I would be under the suspicion that it will come back cleaned/questionable color/env. damage. The surfaces don't jive with something problem free. What do you think Matt?
     
  14. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I'm a Lincoln cent novice so I trust your diagnostic analysis of this coin.

    My overall impression of the coin is that the reverse wear seems a bit different than the obverse (which can happen). It's certainly been cleaned.

    Perhaps your colleague was considering the surface/wear consistency more than the diagnostics.
     
  15. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I agree it has been wiped at least. Still a much easier coin to sell in a details genuine holder.
     
  16. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    Oh yeah, you will have no problem unloading it.
     
  17. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    This is a good catch and exactly right, yakpoo. The 1922 No D in particular was made from badly worn obverse dies and this particular die pair (#2), which is the bigger money coin, used a fresh reverse die with the mushy repunched obverse die. And as such is a diagnostic of a genuine coin.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Did he give any reasons for his opinion ?
     
  19. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    He said that the first 2 was stronger then it should be... I disagreed.
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Hmm, odd reason if you ask me since they are not the same on all examples from the same die set.

    Sounds more likely to me that he just didn't trust his own opinion.
     
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