1922 Lincoln Cent

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by 7613sfc, Jun 14, 2008.

  1. 7613sfc

    7613sfc New Member

    Hi everyone. I inherited a coin collection from my grandfather years ago, but have just recently begun to dig through it. I've been trying to figure out the value of a few coins, and hopefully someone here can help. I've been doing my homework on 1922 No D's, faint D's and the four different dies now for about a week, but I'm still unsure. My best guess, after a week of "expertise" (ha!) is a die 3? Any thoughts? If anyone could give me even the slightest idea of what a coin like this could sell for, that would be wonderful. Thanks so much!
     

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  3. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Without getting out the books, I can tell you to flip the coin, die pair #3 has a rotated reverse. Your reverse is to worn for a cpl of the other diagnostics. Die pair 3 comes with both a weak and a no D obverse. You coin shows a hint of a D if I am seeing what I think I am in you date cropped pic.
     
  4. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Oh yeah, WELCOME to the forum !!!!
     
  5. huntsman53

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    Jack,

    I see what you are seeing but I don't really think that it is a "D" Mintmark! At least, I have never heard of a 1922-D Lincoln cent with a 40 degree Clockwise rotated Mintmark! It must be damage or some sort of discoloration or other. I really think that it is one that would have to be checked under strong magnification to make a definite determination.


    Frank
     
  6. 7613sfc

    7613sfc New Member

    Thanks Jack!
    As for the possible D, it's really hard to tell. I've had the same problem. I really don't think it's a D however. Looking at the coin with a naked eye or a magnifying glass, there is DEFINITELY no D. In pictures, a small blurb shows up almost near where a mintmark would appear, but it seems to be just discoloration or damage. As for the rotated reverse, it doesn't seem to be rotated from what I can see.
    Here's another picture of the date up close.
     

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  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    First, welcome to the forum.

    The definition I have seen for a no "D" is that nothing can be seen under 10X magnification. My guess is that yours is a weak "D". As for which die, it is not #2 (strong reverse) and it is not #4 (Lincoln's coat is not against the rim). That only leaves #1 and #3 and those can best be isolated by the die rotation on die #3. That should be obvious in hand regardless of the wear but cannot be shown in pics.

    FYI; for pics and definitions, see http://www.lincolncentresource.com/1922Ddievarieties.html
     
  8. 7613sfc

    7613sfc New Member

    Thanks rlm. Under magnification, there's nothing, but in photographs, there's a mystery discoloration.
    Assuming it was a die 2 in this condition... any estimates? Also, assuming it's a die 1 or 3 in this condition, any estimated worth? I'm not looking for anything exact, i'm just curious.. over $100? under $100? I recently saw a coin in only slightly better condition going for over $1,000 on ebay (a die 2 of course).. so I'm very curious. If anyone had any sort of roundabout thoughts pertaining to value, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks again.
     
  9. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    My guess is a weak D in AG condition, about $10. Same grade in a No D weak reverse, maybe $100/200 as a 22 No D strong reverse in full G-4 bids around $600
     
  10. 7613sfc

    7613sfc New Member

    Thank you for all of your help!
     
  11. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I can assure you that it is not a die #2. Since you are apparently not seeing any rotation, I assume that it is die #1. (rotation = when you flip the coin from head to tail, die #1 will maintain its verticality while on die #3 the back will be ~15 to the left).

    As for grade, I think Jack is low. This date coin is extremely difficult to grade because of the weak strike. After looking at Heritage (G4 with the date nearly worn away), I would guess you coin is at least G4 and I would guess G6.
     
  12. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

  13. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    The problem with ANACS is any coin with a weak reverse is, by their definition, a weak "D". There is no such animal as a 1922 no "D" for anything from die #1, #3, or #4.

    Here is my 1922- die #3. I have been assured by ANACS that it is VG10 and die #3 (at a coin show). I did not slab it because of their terminology.
     

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  14. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    CDN only quotes a value for the strong reverse as well.
     
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