192? Cent Rotated Die

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  1. adelaide888

    adelaide888 Active Member

    So I finally found, in the wild, a rotated die! It's a non-discernable date, but still cool, I think. I don't know how to estimate the rotation... or improve my pics, for that matter...


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  3. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Now that's a different way of showing the rotation, well done. Maybe a 1923 or 1928?
     
  4. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Well done for a practical way to show rotation. Looks to be about 35 degrees.
     
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  5. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Nice find. I think the rotation is within mint specs and in its condition, not worth much, but the fun factor makes it a keeper, for sure. Might be a 1925 D?
     
  6. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    I personally see 1928 D.
     
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  7. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Based on the position of the mint mark (fully under "2"), my guess is 1927d.
     
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  8. adelaide888

    adelaide888 Active Member

    Lincoln Cent Resource says mint tolerance is 8 degrees or less... not trying to pick a fight but I do think it's more than that...

    ;)

    (if I WAS going to pick a fight, it would be with those 7,000 emojis we have to choose from-- they're impossible to sort through) :jimlad::inpain::punch::greyalien::banhappy::astronaut::phantom::woot::yack:
     
  9. Cliff Reuter

    Cliff Reuter Well-Known Member

    No cents were minted in Denver in 1923.
    The top of the last digit looks like it took a hit so I'm on the 1928D train.
     
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  10. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Why is the rotation Left instead of Right?
     
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  11. Cliff Reuter

    Cliff Reuter Well-Known Member

    I don't think it is left or right. I believe it is determined by the highest degree angle under 180 degrees. It might be clockwise or counterclockwise but I don't remember seeing that on most descriptions.
     
  12. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Thanks
     
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  13. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I agree, @adelaide888. 20 CCW (counterclockwise), easily.
     
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  14. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    If you take your bearings off a proper orientation of the obverse die (which would mean LIBERTY is horizontal), there are all kinds of ways you can describe this. I think I used to know how "experts" described it. I know, if I did know it, I all but plumb forgot it. So I just describe it my way.
     
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  15. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    And so small on my screen. LOL
     
  16. Lueds

    Lueds Well-Known Member

    Die Axis Degrees.jpg
    Hope this is helpful, perhaps you can print this out for reference
     
  17. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    I put my protractor against the screen, and allowing a little because the tape on the coin is not quite horizontal, it comes to about 35 degrees CCW
     
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  18. I don't know about the value of rotated die errors on pennies but I know that rotated dies on Jefferson war nickels don't mean squat! I had several from a lot of 20 I won on proxibid for 6 bucks (mostly VF to XF). There were 9 rotated die coins in the lot so I posted a couple on ebay. And they sat for 2 months with many many views but no offers no watchers no nothing. I moved them to the auction side and had to post 4 times total before they finally sold for $1 apiece. Melt value on war nickels is currently $1.52 per coin
     
  19. I don't know about the value of rotated die errors on pennies but I know that rotated dies on Jefferson war nickels don't mean squat! I had several from a lot of 20 I won on proxibid for 6 bucks (mostly VF to XF). There were 9 rotated die coins in the lot so I posted a couple on ebay. And they sat for 2 months with many many views but no offers no watchers no nothing. I moved them to the auction side and had to post 4 times total before they finally sold for $1 apiece. Melt value on war nickels is currently $1.52 per coin
     
  20. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Norm
    Normally, real collecting interest starts with a rotation of 90 degrees on most coins with the interest growing with each increase of rotation be it CW or CCW. But, as with all things there is a degree of interest with the lesser rotations too.
     
  21. adelaide888

    adelaide888 Active Member

    Thanks for that, @Lueds -- and as far as I can tell, with the use of the printed-out degree-circumference thingie, @expat is our winner. 35 degrees.
     
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