I ask this for training purposes only. This coin is currently on eBay. The 1917 type was recommended in another thread. It seems to be very well struck, but the luster seems to be off. An overly dipped coin?? Am I right? Thanks.
That has been really cleaned. Nice coin overall. Stike is beautiful for a notorious weak strike year.
In my opinion, you can't tell if the coin has been cleaned (using something with friction applied) from the images. It very likely has been dipped. One of the hard lessons I have learned is that buying raw MS classic coins online is pretty dicey: cleaned, polished, and otherwise messed with examples abound. I would stick with certified examples, unless you choose to collect less expensive, circulated examples (what I am doing now with slq's).
Actually the 1917 - P Type 1 is the best struck of all the SLQ bar none , the series is notorious for week strikes but '17 type 1 -Ps have over 80% with full heads . Compared to the 1916 with about 3% HAVING FH designation and with a much looser criteria , the '26-D has less than 1 % with FHs . rzage
I agree. This year is in type 1 is better struck than practically all other slq years. That said, it looks to be a nice coin. It was probably dipped, being that there looks to be little toning. I can't tell how severe from the photo, but it looks like it still has plenty of remaining luster, so my initial guess is it's not too bad. I still wouldn't purchase from those pics.
Without better pics of both sides I wouldn't pay $800 , figure around $650 TO $700 for a super well struck MS-64FH - FS , to be a bargain all the luster should be there and be a top end 64 almost a 65 with superb eye appeal . Ask for better pics or pass . IMO rzage:thumb:
Sorry I misread the $500 for $800 , still would want better pics of obverse and reverse to make sure there are no problems . rzage
I wouldn't pay that much unless it was certified. I purchased this one raw for $150 about a year ago. It was a great price and I got lucky in that it was a decent problem free lower MS coin, but I wouldnt have been hurt too much if it were cleaned. $500 is too much to risk without plastic imo.
Also, I doubt the one pictured would go 64, due to hits on the knee and neck. I would pass and buy a nice certified one for $500.
thanks rzage! The only thing that might make mine go lower is the hit on liberty's breast. I guess it would depend on how a tpg would perceive it, but it might make a 63 with a little luck.
I'd be happier with your coin for $150 than mine , A PCGS MS64-FH which I paid close to $700 for , good buy . rzage
yeah, it was a lucky break. I purchased it raw off of ebay with small pictures kind of like the OP's. Just enough detail that I could tell it was MS or close to it...and didn't appear to have any obvious problems. There are good deals to be had out there, and sometimes its worthwhile to take a calculated risk if the seller has a good return policy and the price is right. You took the safer approach rzage in purchasing one certified..nothing wrong with that. Would you mind posting pics of your MS-64 FH rzage?
Here it is , sorry these are pics that came when I bought it at Jack Clines , dont have the reverse picture . The revese isn't as nice and is probably what broought this to a 64 , as I think the obverse would go 65 . Attached Thumbnails rzage
I think I like your deal better , I'd have a beautiful coin and another $550 to buy another nice coin , I have a MS-63 1929-S that NGC calls a FH but to me is nowhere near a full head that I bought before joining CT , I'd like to upgrade to a real FH - FS Type 2 , and with the $550 saved if I had bought your coin , plus the $300 spent on the '29 I could do it . rzage:hatch::hammer:
