1916 Philly wheat penny

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Martha Lynn, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. Martha Lynn

    Martha Lynn Well-Known Member

    Can some one tell me if this is a proof ? I know Philly
    minted very few of them. With the wear and all I can't tell.
    Heck , even brand new I can't tell. Thank you WIN_20200321_11_50_12_Pro.jpg WIN_20200321_11_48_28_Pro.jpg
     
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  3. Danomite

    Danomite What do you say uh-huh

    It doesn’t appear to be a proof. The rims don’t look right, of course the wear isn’t helping. I do see a MAD on the obverse,Misaligned Die.
     
  4. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    they made 1,050 Proofs.
    If you *buy* one, it would be slabbed and edges look like this:
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    Other than the 1,050 proofs, for general circulation they made
    1916 P 131,833,677
    1916 D 35,956,000
    1916 S 22,510,000
    So if you check general pocket change, or coins from circulation, you'll more likely get a circulated version.
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2020
  5. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    @Hunting Rare This is the reason you shouldn't keep posting unsubstantiated junk. The OP is a new collector who is trying to learn about numismatics. I wonder where she got the idea that there was a possibility that her coin could be a matte proof?

    @Martha Lynn No problem with you posting a questions like this. @Clawcoins gave you some good info. Matte Proof Lincoln's are really beautiful coins IMO. I've Liked these for 40+ years but still don't have one yet.

    Here is some additional info if you want learn more about Matte Proof Lincolns

    http://www.lincolncentresource.com/Matte_Proofs.html
    https://www.pcgs.com/news/pennies-from-heaven-the-mysterious-and-rare-matte-proof-lincoln
     
  6. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I did a quick search and looked at a few clickbait websites and couple YouTube videos.

    They all refer to 1916 cents in general as possibly rare, condition as prices rise, they refer to the amount minted of circulated coin counts, etc etc. Well, duh, they are 104 years old in general. So finding a nice condition one in circulation is going to be very rare as think of the millions of people of all ages over the decades, albeit century, that have collected coins. Plus the gov't(banks) removes old worn coins and replace them too.

    But not one of those websites/youtube mentions that there was only 1,050 Proofs made.
    They all made it seem as though the general circulated copies were of the same breed as the Proofs and they were easily found. :banghead:
     
  7. RonSanderson

    RonSanderson Supporter! Supporter

    The 1916 cents are considered to be among the most detailed and best struck of the entire series. Here is a business strike that has broad rims and sharp details. On the reverse, you can see the rims look more rounded at the 1:00 position, even though they are broad and sharp-edged on the obverse.

    01c 1916 #02 full 01.gif
     
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  8. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    1916 was the year the US MINT developed brand NEW master obverse dies
    Reading from the book
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    add'l info in regards to the sharpness of the strike 1916 D
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    Last edited: Mar 22, 2020
  9. Martha Lynn

    Martha Lynn Well-Known Member

    Origins of my post. When I looked in the Red Book to get a ball park figure of the coins value
    there was a letter designating a foot note to be aware of. The foot note showed that there were
    1050 proofs minted at the Philly mint. I have had,
    and still have difficulty determining if a coin is a
    proof. That is why I depend on the knowledge of
    the helpful members here to guide and instruct
    me. I hope I have not been too much of a bothersome travelling companion to this wonderful
    crew I have found here at coin talk.....martha Ps I don't watch
    any you tube coin videos. They wreak of unfounded sensationalism !
     
  10. Hunting Rare

    Hunting Rare Active Member


    Don't worry about what I do. And stop bringing me into threads that have nothing to do with me. Get a life.
     
  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I highly doubt it.
     
  12. RonSanderson

    RonSanderson Supporter! Supporter

    We all benefit from seeing what each other thinks. When you ask questions, we all benefit.

    Here are samples of the 1916-D and 1916-S to compare the obverse detail.

    01c 1916-D full 05.jpg

    01c 1916-S #03 full 05.JPG
     
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  13. 05Wildcats

    05Wildcats Well-Known Member

    Found this 1916 in a bag of wheats. 16.jpg 16r.jpg
     
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  14. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    No, it's not a proof; just a heavily circulated business strike.
     
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  15. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    And yet there are YouTube coin videos that are educational. You should do a search for them. I found the ones about the minting process helpful.
     
  16. Martha Lynn

    Martha Lynn Well-Known Member

    Well I thought it would be apparent that I was referring to the coin videos that make the outrageous claims about over inflated numismatic values. I do enjoy the type you are referring to.
    They are educational for sure. The science videos
    are cool too. …….martha
     
  17. HaleiwaHI

    HaleiwaHI Active Member

    Wow, what a beautiful coin. Wouldn't it be nice to own that puppy?
     
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  18. HaleiwaHI

    HaleiwaHI Active Member

    another beautiful wheat. Wheats are some of the best looking vintage coins out there. I guess I have a personal attachment to them, because I grew up using them.
     
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  19. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Being a minor MAD strike, I think would eliminate any possibility of it being a proof.
     
  20. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    PCGS has some very educational videos on Youtube.
     
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