got this out of some 90%, it looks to me like the NE corner of the "D" is showing, it actually shows a little better in the pic, but it has to be the right light. What do you think? Any other die characteristics of the d mint on the obv or rev? Enough to pass getting slabbed?
Thanks, I know it is hard to see, but it actually looks more like the NE serif of the d, it is a corner, not rounded. I wondered about the location too, but isn't that the right location for die state 1? http://www.stellacoinnews.com/index.php/mercury-dimes-ch-6-1916-d/
In my opine this coin from the Kingdom of Hawaii is Barbers best. Outside of this one piece the man was a bane on American coinage. Thank God he died in 1916 so some great new ideas could grow. :thumb: Hawaii Hapaha (quarter)
Cncman for it to be a die state 1 the mm would have to be further north and east next to the last leaf. From what I can tell the mm is south and west of the leaf. The die state 4 is the only one that is south of the last leaf but it is located to the east of the leaf. IMO
It is east of the leaf, almost touching it, which is why, before I looked up the die states I thought it was probably a die chip or something else because it seemed out of place to me. Here is another pic with the area I am talking about circled.
this is as close as I can get, it is either a d or a die chip or damage, the corner appears to be about as high as the last leaf, but it blends into the area where the rim merges with the field rather quickly. Hope this helps better.
What you are seeing is concave, not convex, and I haven't seen a mint mark s or d that was that close to the E and level with it. I did an overlay with a known die state 1, you can clearly see if there is a mint mark it would be where I indicated. I guess it doesn't matter, no one else has chimed in and I doubt any TPG would recognize it without any other die markers.
Yes and no. Yes becase you find out if it is real and if its been cleaned. No because if its not real it ll only be wourth $2.50. (it cost between $25 and $60 to get it slabed.
truthfully, your overlay is not in proper perspective. Look at the position of the D relative to the top serif of the E on a genuine coin. The top of the D is level with the top of the E. The D on a genuine coin is high enough to where it shows even on seriously worn (AG-3) coins. On your coin, the top of the E is clearly visible but no mint mark is present at that height. What you are seeing is lower, maybe level with the middle serif, but not the top one. Hence, this coin is NOT a 16-D.
At least going by the pic of the original coin the top of the D isn't level with the top of the E but the bottom of the top serif. And look at my coin when I rotate it level and draw a straight line. Looks pretty level to the bottom of the top serif to me and certainly not level with the middle serif. You have a good point about if there is that much detail in the E overall that we should be able to see more of the MM, assuming there is the same amount of merging of the rim at the E as the field where the MM should be, but that area has merged much farther in for some reason than the other areas. I am leaning towards it either being a die chip or early PMD that got worn down. Thanks for the input.
