1914-D need advise

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Marc Aldrich, Dec 23, 2016.

  1. Marc Aldrich

    Marc Aldrich Member

    Hi all and Happy Holidyas . I need your feedback on this 14-d that is available at auction.
    This has porosity on the obverse. Does this look like it improperly cleaned at some point?
    Would you bid on it?

    Much appreciation from you the experts. 14d.jpg 14d2.jpg
     
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  3. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    The surfaces look odd. How certain are you of it's authenticity. It almost looks cast.
     
  4. McBlzr

    McBlzr Sr Professional Collector

    I don't like the looks of the Obv. also.
     
  5. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    Going to agree that the surface especially the obverse is strange looking. The coin overall definitely has a cleaned and retoned look either way. Not sure on authenticity I'm sure a more knowledgeable member in that regard will chime in though.
     
  6. Marc Aldrich

    Marc Aldrich Member

    All I know that they guarantee it to be authentic. But they do recognize the obverse is strange. Could cleaning cause this porous surface?
     
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  7. -Andy-

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  8. Marc Aldrich

    Marc Aldrich Member

    I think I will pass. PCGS will attack it.
     
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  9. Marc Aldrich

    Marc Aldrich Member

    Thank you Andy!
     
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  10. -Andy-

    -Andy- Andrew B. -Andy- YN

    another thing, I personal think it has been cleaned but, I would wait a little longer for the other guys to give their opinions. Thanks! :)
     
  11. -Andy-

    -Andy- Andrew B. -Andy- YN

    no problem. I'm always happy to help!
     
  12. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Based on the placement of the date and mintmark, it looks genuine to me, but it has certainly been messed with. it looks like it had some surface corrosion and was whizzed off.
     
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  13. Marc Aldrich

    Marc Aldrich Member

    I appreciate the great insight to all! I'm looking for a 14-D if anyone has an extra one;) Enjoy your Holidays!!
     
  14. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Something is wrong with it. I would stay away.
     
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  15. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I believe a fake based on the shape of the mintmark. Also, I do not believe the defects on the surface go into the metal, they appear to be above the metal plane which would indicate non-mint dies , maybe made by spark erosion although with out seeing in person, I would not dismiss casting.
     
  16. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    Why is such a coin not in a graded slab is another good question to ask yourself.
     
  17. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Maybe. But there are plenty of raw key date coins. I own a raw 09-S VDB.
     
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  18. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    I don't like it. I've never seen a 14-D like that. Nearly flawless, highly porous obverse. That does not come from cleaning.

    I'm not sure how it was created but I don't believe it came from the Mint.

    If you want a '14-D buy one in a major TPG slab.
    Lance.
     
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  19. RonSanderson

    RonSanderson Supporter! Supporter

    I will say I saw the exact listing myself. I put it on my watch list. I looked at the photo you showed, thought about it some more, and finally went back and took it off my list. I just wasn't comfortable.
     
  20. Dimedude2

    Dimedude2 Member

    I think it is authentic - the D is properly placed. But there is some strange cleaning happening, as the cleaning of the obverse is different from the reverse. I would certainly pass - there will be many opportunities to find a 14-D you like.
     
  21. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    In personal collections sure, not really anymore in most dealer cases advertising online and especially not in auctions
     
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