1913 S 5 cent Buffalo type I & type II

Hi again to all, Have a couple of 1913 S 5 cent Buffalo coins. The second one I'm pretty sure is a type II
but not sure about the first one. The date is pretty faded. I found out that you can tell the difference by the ground under the buffalo on the reverse, which to me looks quite a bit different leaving me to belive it may be a type I. any input would be great. taking a stab at grade I would say about G4 (go ahead and let me have it if i'm wrong Any thoughts on value ? ......Thanks, Pat

 

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You got the TI and TII correct, first being a TI and second a TII.
As for the grades, the TI would probably grade AG because Cents is barely there along with other features.

The TII looks to be closer to VG.

 

You have it correct, the type 1 is identified by the raised mound found only on the 1913 issue.

 

Thanks, loose a little on one, gain a little a little on the other....kinda puts me
right in the middle