1912/13 V-Nickel -Possible Overdate?

Is this an over date? The date has been difficult to tell if says 12 or 13 in person.

 

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Picture #4 shows it best. That is what I am saying I see.

 

just a worn 12

 

Physically cannot be a 13. Pic #3 to me most clearly shows a 2.

 

just 12

 

A worn 12, based on photos, and on the fact that there's no realistic set of circumstances that could've given rise to a 12/13 overdate.

 

What you are suggesting is referred to as an overdate. 1912/13 reads "12 over 13" meaning the two digits "12" were punched over the two digits "13". Usually only one digit is punched over another digit unless both digits needed to be changed.

Years ago the Mint may have made more dies than they needed for one year. Rather than destroy the dies dated the previous year and spend more time and money making new dies with the current date, they would sometimes repunch the die to change the date to the current year. A die dated 1887 could be changed to 1888 by repunching only the last digit of the date. We would call this an "1888/7" (1888 over 7) because the last digit of the date 1888 is an 8 that was repunched over a 7 and only that one digit was altered. A die dated 1889 could be changed to 1890 by repunching two digits; i.e., "90" would be punched over "89". We would call this an "1890/89" (1890 over 89).

It would make no sense to repunch a die dated 1913 to change the date to 1912. There would be no logical explanation for that.

Your eyes may be playing tricks on you. I am sure that your coin is dated 1912 and is not an overdate.

 

Well, everyone seems to agree it is just a 2.. so how do I close this thread?

 

You don't... and even if you could, you shouldn't. Threads like this are interesting and educational... for all to see and learn.

 

Hobo,

Toward the end of the year they do start making dies for the coming year so they are often making dies for both years at the same time. Before 1997 dies had to be hubbed multiple times, so from time to time it has happened that a die would be hubbed by a hub with one date, annealed, and then accidentally hubbed with a hub from a different date. This is how all of the 20th century overdates were created. But since both dated dies were being created at the same time either dated hub could have been used first.

 

Like Santa and the tooth fairy, there is no such thing as a 1913 V Nickel. In 1913 it would have a big hairy animal on it......not a woman. The Indian Head design was struck from 1913 to 1938.

 

With that being said.......the nickel is a worn 1912. 100 percent for sure....:yes:It's not often that one can say 100 percent for sure when it comes to these older cents......I do think that she's pretty sexy; even in this condition.

 

Actually there is. And they DID make 1913 V Nickel dies in late 1912. (I don't know how many sets of dies they made, but they did send ten sets of 1913 S dies to San Francisco.) I'm not saying this is a case of a 12/13 or 13/12. I believe it is just a worn 1912.

 

Interesting is there a reference you can point me to on the 13s dies? I'd love to read up on that if possible.

 

Has anyone seen a 1913 V nickel? I am with Koinjester, if at all possible a link to one would be nice.

 

The 1913 V nickel is pretty famous. Just google it.

 

It even had its own episode on Hawaii Five 0, Tony. Don't tell me you don't watch that show...

 

Yes. Five years ago I got to hold and examine the Walton example that recently sold.

 

If that's not proof I don't know what is!

 

It's totally photoshopped. I can tell by the pixels and also from seeing quite a few 'shops in my time.