1909 VDB Cent w/ Die Struck Through Mint Errors on Both Sides??

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by iPen, Jan 2, 2018.

  1. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    On the obverse below the date near the rim, there appears to have been some foreign matter that the die struck through and sandwiched. On the reverse, on the left wheat ear near the rim, there also appears to have been something that was struck through. Do these look like die struck through errors to any of you? Or is it a different type of error like a planchet flaw?

    Thanks in advance!


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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    It's possible to have a Struck Through occur on both sides in different areas. It's also possible to have small Laminations.. Or both at the same time.
     
  4. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    LOL that title is a bit confusing.

    I meant to ask if those are errors, as opposed to errors being possible on both sides.
     
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  5. Amos 811

    Amos 811 DisMember

    Obverse looks like damage, reverse looks like a strike thru
     
  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    If a vertical press was used in 1909, it is very unlikely that both of those anomalies could be a strikethrough.

    Chris
     
  7. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    I do believe that it is some sort of error as opposed to a PMD because those marks abruptly end where the rim begins. Maybe one side is a struck through and another side is something else like a lamination or planchet flaw.

    I'll be submitting this to NGC as a Mint Error, probably by this weekend.
     
  8. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    They were vertical presses. I don't believe they started using horizontal presses until around 2002. I known by then they were all horizontal presses, I'm not sure how soon before that they started introducing them.
     
  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    As I suspected! I was just too lazy to thumb through Roger's book to find the info. Thanks!

    By the way, Conder, knowing that a vertical press was used, do you think it could be possible for strikethroughs to occur on both sides of a coin?

    Chris
     
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Yes its possible. You have to have something laying on the anvil die and then have a planchet with something sitting on it fed into the press. I wouldn't think it would be real common, but it is possible.
     
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