1907 IHC with considerable rotation

I have a 1907 IHC that has about 140 degrees of rotation. This is subject to interpretation as I might not be calculating it correctly. I flipped it straight over and can't come up with a clear method of proof positive. Just my word for it.

 

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Here is a better shot in a 2 X 2. It shows nearly a 180 rotation.

 

Rotations are usually calculated as if you were rotating the dial on a clock. Thats close to about 285. 15 degrees is still within specs.

 

Thanks for the feedback.

 

I think you coin is rotated 35° to 40°. Degrees or minutes?

 

This gauge will be a better tool as it goes 0 to 180 degrees CCW & CW direction as it can only be 180 degree off center.... any degree to the left or right of 180 is either CCW or CW.

 

I am wondering where you got the gauge you posted.

 

On line just google it.

 

@Inspector43 The only way to show a rotation is to take a photo of the coin with a mirror. Being you, your word is good enough for me. Beautiful coin with a great rotation that’s well out of specs.

 

I did google it, quite interesting.
I guess the diagram I posted from the CONE published Registry of Numismatic Errors is totally outdated information. A rare publication, but just about all the info is useless and/or obsolete. It is interesting to know how things do change.
I like the 180° CCW or CW format better.

 

Thanks for the support CN. I tried the mirror trick but couldn't make it work. And I thought that I have nothing to gain by trying to deceive anyone.

 

I can’t make it work either. Even being honest, there are those that don’t believe. Blessed are those that believe without seeing.

 

Well it makes sense....90 degrees- 12 oclock. 180 degrees 6 oclock any degree pasted either determines a cw or ccw as well the correct direction as correct 360 = complete circle. Using Clock wise or counter clock wise gives you an exact correct location of that point.
Now correct 225 degrees is a location on a circle but is it clockwise or counter clockwise? As depending on which direction it could be CW or CCW.

 

I specifically collected Indian cents with rotated dies. I have 22 different Indian head cent dates/varieties with rotated dies! 1907 is one of the most common dates for significant rotations (most common dates: 1863, 1868, 1897, and 1907). Although anything more than 15 degrees is technically beyond mint tolerance, they don't become collectible on Indian cents until they're more than 90 degrees rotated, which yours is. The rotated die census give the 1907 Indian with die rotations between 90 and 180 degrees an R5 rarity, meaning 31 to 80 specimens are believed to exist. That doesn't sound like a lot, but the supply is still greater than the number of collectors. It's an interesting error.

 

@robbudo Thanks for the valuable information.