1907 Barber Quarter for Grading

Trying an experiment.

 

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Possible AU, but...

looks like it was cleaned & retoned

 

AU but I agree the coin was cleaned.

 

ChAU cleaned

 

AU-55 and cleaned

 

AU-Details

 

Same coin, different lighting. I was seeing if anyone questioned the poor lighting before saying the coin was cleaned.

 

I agree with the others. The coin has been harshly cleaned and will receive a details grade.

 

I think it will grade. Send it in and please let us know.

 

I still say it's cleaned and the cleaning lines are more visible now.

 

It's not the lighting.... the hairlines on the head are what is prompting the cleaned replies.

 

As for the hairlines, they are mostly from circulation and friction with some object. The hairlines only exist from 3:00 to 7:00 on the obverse, and nowhere else. It may have been wiped at one point.

Are you referring to the original pictures, or the new ones?

I see this term thrown out a lot, and I doubt the posters know what is means. Please define it for me. My definition is that 90+% of the original surface has been scrubbed off using a brush of some sort.

True, I can see that. Maybe I should have used a different coin.

 

Both. There are clear hairlines on the obverse of the coin that are indicative of a cleaning. Obviously grading a coin is very hard in photos and in hand it might be different...but it looks like a text book harshly cleaned coin to me.

 

Please define "harshly cleaned" for me.

 

It looks like someone took a cloth or something like that and scrubbed the obverse to "shine it up." My guess is it happened a long time ago as the coin has started to tone over it.

 

Then what is just "cleaned"? Also, this coin was not scrubbed. At most, it was just wiped.

 

Coins can be cleaned without damaging them. Typically this is done by dipping them in various solutions to remove toning that is unsightly or otherwise a potential hazard to the coin. However, over-dipping can also damage the coin (dipping removes the outer layer of the coin and if done too much with ruin the luster). I suspect if this coin was dipped the harsh cleaning would become far more evident.

Even if it was "wiped" ...whatever it was "wiped" with damaged the surface of the coin.

 

Ah. We have a mutual disagreement in terminology. To me, a dipped coin is mutually exclusive from a cleaned coin. "Dipping" implies using a chemical to either alter the chemical composition of the top layer of metal, or to remove it altogether. "Cleaning" is using an abrasive (cloth, brush, sandpaper, etc.) to scrape off the top layer of metal atoms, which leaves hairlines. I reserve the term "harshly cleaned" for when an abrasive is used to remove almost all of the original surface of a coin, leaving many severe hairlines that cover the entire surface of the coin. That is not what I see here. By my definitions, my coin is only "cleaned," and only lightly IMO.