1901 S Barber Quarter Fake?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Lorenzian, Nov 29, 2014.

  1. Lorenzian

    Lorenzian Member

    The weight is good, Its not magnetic, The date and mint line up with die pair B pictures.
    Things I'm looking at are the funny rim line at the top, the pitting of the silver at higher magnification. Any experts out there?
     

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  3. Knightly

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  4. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I don't like the look of the surfaces, way to grainy.
     
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  5. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'm leaning to fake , just from looking at the obverse pics as I've never seen a real Barber with details that weak and mushy .
     
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  6. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    Was this piece dug up by a detectorist? That would explain some of the pitting I see.And the liberal coating of sand too.
     
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  7. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Here's one to compare . The 1901-S is one of the most faked Barbers , the details just aren't sharp enough unless like said it was a dug coin and the sand wore them down . But I find that unlikely . Compare the angle of her nose , the ops coin is curved where this coin is straighter . Also look at the lack of detail in the protected areas , coins just don't wear that way , that's from a lack of detail in minting , most likely from a casting .
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  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Looks like a very high quality casting to me.
     
  9. harris498

    harris498 Accumulator

    I really want it to be real...
    But I really don't think it is.
    I never see the '01-S in any better than G. Rare bird.
     
  10. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I agree with TC.
     
  11. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    There are exactly 2 obverse and 2 reverse dies for this date.

    This coins looks to be Obverse B and the first reverse, which would make it appear genuine, but it's grainy appearance makes it more suspect as a cast coin.

    I would like to offer a picture that I took of an article from Coin World January 8, 2001. I believe that by siting the source, it is legal to share it here. If the mods feel it necessary, I will ask Steve Roach (the current Editor In Chief) for permission.
     

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  12. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    A casting is one way to atone for the lack of detail in the protected areas of the coin . I've never seen a coin lose details in the protected areas .
     
  13. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Run away from that one. I agree with others that this coin is a cast counterfeit.
     
  14. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    My opinion? Absolute fake.
     
  15. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Looks like a granular cast fake to me.
     
  16. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    the granularity is so uniform in size and stippling...exactly what you would expect to see from a sand casting that wasn't turned in a rock tumbler to smooth it out. IMHO is an el fakeo.
     
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