1897 IHC 1 in neck

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by eric6794, Nov 7, 2016.

  1. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    So i've gone through some IHC I had in a pouch for a while and I think I stumbled across a 1897 with a 1 in the neck I believe its the snow 1,what do you all think? 18971.jpg 18972.jpg 18973.jpg
     
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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    yes. nice catch.
     
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  4. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Yup! Snow 1 for sure!
     
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  5. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    Cool my first IHC error/variety too bad about the condition.
     
  6. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Yup! Snow 1 for sure!

    What is this Snow 1 that you speak of ?
     
  7. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    Snow 1 is a designation number for that particular variety, I'm assuming its called 1 because of the 1 in the neck. Rick Snow is a numismatist who specializes in IHC and flying eagle cents...im not sure what else he does but he has a website called www.indiancect.com
     
  8. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Thank You for information.
     
  9. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Snow 1 as in the 1st variety for the 1897.

    nice find
     
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  10. C G Memminger

    C G Memminger Active Member

    Anyone know how this happened?
     
  11. Eaglefawn

    Eaglefawn Active Member

    Nice catch, nice coin...lucky dog, lucky dog!!!:bookworm::D
     
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  12. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    thank you for that clarification I tried to look up why it was called 1 but came up blank. I thought it had something to do with the 1 in the neck :)
     
  13. C G Memminger

    C G Memminger Active Member

    Someone edumacate me! How does a stray obverse feature appear in another part of the obverse. I understand die clashes....but...help!!
     
  14. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I'm guessing the same way MPDs happen on other types (has nothing to do with clashing). Think digits in denticles or in the relief as on certain seated examples.
     
  15. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    At the time, master dies were used with the design, but the year was hand punched into the working dies (later on it would be punched into the master hub and today it's part of the original) - see http://www.coinnews.net/2013/09/13/how-the-philadelphia-mint-makes-hubs-and-dies-to-produce-coins/ for the current process.


    In order to punch the date into the working die, it has to be annealed and quenched to specific temperatures to soften the metal. Then it's annealed to a different temperature and quenched to reharden.

    Die sinkers would test the die's hardness by punching into a part of the die that wouldn't (shouldn't) be visible in the finished die. He missed.
     
  16. Eaglefawn

    Eaglefawn Active Member

  17. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Isn't that the fun part of numismatics? You start researching something simple and poof you are off looking at 1890s patent filings.
     
  18. Eaglefawn

    Eaglefawn Active Member

    Yes and I'm so glad to learn I'm not the only one out here that starts on one thing and winds up hours later still at the computer checking out one thing or another... unfortunately I lose alot of time being otherwise productive but as you say "Ain't we got fun!?!"
     
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  19. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    EDIT: IMHO, your answer was excellent until the end. The correct explanation is that misplaced dates happen. This is just one example. As you posted above: "He missed." The engravers don't punch digits into dies to test their hardness. :angelic:
     
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  20. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    More than once I've gone off to research something I saw here and never made it back that day. :)
     
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  21. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    It would help me to see a comparison photo, of another 1897 without this variety, because I can't see what you are describing.
     
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