1894 O Morgan thoughts

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  1. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    Well I just got this one , I hope the photos are not hiding to much and she can make AU-55 but we will see when she arrives. Seller had a very good rating and return privy if needed . Price seemed good . Screen Shot 2021-03-26 at 9.15.04 PM.jpg Screen Shot 2021-03-26 at 9.15.27 PM.jpg Screen Shot 2021-03-26 at 9.36.55 PM.jpg Screen Shot 2021-03-26 at 9.37.25 PM.jpg Screen Shot 2021-03-26 at 9.37.07 PM.jpg
     
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    At best I'm thinking an AU-50 but more than likely an XF-45.
     
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  4. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    keep in mind this year is notorious for a poor strike and has pretty decent breast detail for a 1894 o
     
  5. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Agreed. I am going AU, but a bit lower. AU 50. Much more surface preservation than an XF coin.
     
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  6. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    Well I hope she pulls a 53 at least but regardless I think she is quite attractive for a 1894 o in this grade range
     
  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I can see it getting away with that, but I'm at 50 on it, too.
     
  8. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    Screen Shot 2021-03-28 at 9.47.08 AM.png I did a few zoom ins I think she is better than A 50 but I will submit her on the next group submission to PCGS. I may tone my hopes to a AU-53 but that said I still think she has great eye appeal for a 94 O Screen Shot 2021-03-28 at 8.44.14 AM.png Screen Shot 2021-03-28 at 8.44.53 AM.png
     
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  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I hope you get the 53, but I see too much wear in the hairlines for a 53. It doesn’t make that much difference, as it is a very difficult date, and this is a very attractive coin.
     
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  10. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    @messydesk does this look like vam 6 to you? I am leaning that way.
     
  11. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Yes. VAM 6. Very nice AU. 94-Os are pancakes, typically, so you can't just look at hair detail. You should do well on this one. These are AU58s.
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  12. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Tough date. Nice coin!
     
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  13. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    No question that it is AU. I said 50, but we all know there is a lot of latitude there. I had a 94o that was AU 58, and as has been said, it is such an impossible date. The coin is absolutely in the 50-55 range, and is a very good looking example from the “Golden Age” of Morgans—1893-1985.
     
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  14. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The only thing I see that might be wrong with it is that it is a trifle dull. The pictures posted by @messydesk are what you might want to see for a "lock" on the AU-58 grade.
     
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  15. LRC-Tom

    LRC-Tom Been around the block...

    Nice coin. I see it as an AU-55.
     
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  16. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    well the coin came in today it is much more bright white than the photos show , I need a better set up for taking pictures . It does have quite a few contact scratches in the field and some on the face. I still think she is AU , the breast feathers are better than they photo . Sellers pics where worked a little for color for sure .

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  17. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Well, if she's au, the contact marks don't really matter, mainly it comes down to remaining luster and absence of cleaning marks . I'm thinkingmaybe au55
     
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  18. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    Honestly now I am wondering if she will details. I got her ,coin was much brighter white than pics originally indicated . So much chatter on the face and neck and the field in front of the face . A little disappointed with how the seller portrayed the coin.I tried to get pics in different lighting to show all the marks. Reverse is super nice. IMG_7994.jpg IMG_7996.jpg IMG_7989.jpg IMG_7996-2.jpg IMG_7992.jpg
     
  19. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I’m afraid that you are correct. It looks like AU details. The current set of pictures has lots of marks that look like cleaning swirls, and abrasions. Also, there is an overdipped look to this set of pictures. Based on the current set of photos, I would have to say AU details—improperly cleaned. The look of the coin is disappointing in the recent photographs.
     
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  20. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    yes I dont know if its over dipped that may of been the pictures and lighting but for sure the marks have me concerned . I dont know for sure if it would details but I am not going to take the risk and will send her back.
     
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  21. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I agree. The seller’s images hide problems that are apparent on your more detailed, better lit photographs. There is usually a reason that a semi key date like an 1894o in a higher grade is not certified, and that is usually the fact that it won’t straight grade.
     
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