1894 Indian Head Cent

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Boot, Feb 24, 2015.

  1. Boot

    Boot Junior Member

    A couple of questions for this coin.
    1) Is this the classic Snow-1 1894/1894?
    2) How would you grade the coin considering the scratches on the back of the coin? 1894obv1.png 1894Rev1.png 1894obvclose.png
     
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  3. Boot

    Boot Junior Member

    1894obvclose1.png
    The first image was pretty dark. This looks like the 94/94 vs the double date to me. But I'm asking for opinions. Thanks in advance.
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2015
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  4. HoosierDaddy

    HoosierDaddy Active Member

    Cool date! Lots of stuff going on!
     
  5. no_cents

    no_cents Member

    Now I've gotta go back and check all my 1884's and 1894's....nice coin!
     
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  6. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, I had a 1909-S IHC with similar scratches on the obverse and was told it wouldn't grade because it would be considered a damaged coin. I have no proof of this but this is what I was told on CoinTalk.
     
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  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    YES!

    it is.
     
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  8. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    Agreed. This is the one that's usually in the price guides. With the large extra part of the extra 4 teetering on the upper right of the 4, this is easy to pick out even in lower grades/culls. I've found about 10 or so in various places...

    Shame about the scratches on the reverse. Otherwise I might venture that this coin had only been cleaned (this may be the photos/lighting making it look that way.) I might only pay 3/4 G4 money for it, if I had the inclination to add another to my collection.

    Thanks for sharing!
     
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  9. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Nice obverse , but wouldn't grade in my opinion .
     
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  10. Boot

    Boot Junior Member

    Appreciate the feedback. I considered that it might not grade out. Damage with AU details or such. At which point paying for a high grade would be wasteful.
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2015
  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    agreed, the reverse damage kills it.
     
  12. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    It's the Snow-1, but the obv. scratch and the reverse knocks down the value.
    Since the obverse is where the variety is, value will be weighted on the obverse. I sold a G4 1894/1894 for $8 (a good deal). I think this coin is worth several times more...fine as a placeholder till you get a better one. :)
    Btw, did you sell this on eBay--I see the same coin here.
     
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  13. Boot

    Boot Junior Member

    Yes, it is on ebay, but no, it isn't mine, nor did I purchase it. I was looking for opinions here. I thought it was severely overpriced.
     
  14. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    I see it now--very optimistic price/grade if you ask me. It's EF details at best--too much wear/not enough luster for AU. Obv scratch and the messed up reverse knocks it down quite a few rungs...
     
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  15. Boot

    Boot Junior Member

    We need to be wary about posting a link to e-bay. Can get into hot water with the seller, if we are bashing his/her coin.
     
  16. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    I removed the link, but I don't see this point mentioned in the Cointalk rules--mods please correct me here. I should note--there's a big difference between discussing one's opinion on a coin, and suggesting malicious intent on the seller's part. It's not libel to say "I don't think that coin grades AU", or "I think the coin's overpriced." :angelic: It's very hard to discuss a coin without some photos/link, etc...
     
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  17. Boot

    Boot Junior Member

    Agree. I usually remove stuff that will identify a coin,(background) if its currently for sale. Y'all snooped and found it. Yes, opinions. Still, some sellers can be pretty damn grumpy. We deserve to protect ourselves from overgrading, overpricing and dishonest practices.
     
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  18. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    Right--but some sellers need to get a grip--when they grade or attribute a variety, that's an opinion too. And the internet is full of opinions--take your pick. :)
     
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  19. Boot

    Boot Junior Member

    Agree, the one poor reaction I've seen, was quite defensive. However, the "opinions" flying around were honest, but pretty damning.
     
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  20. robertxavier

    robertxavier Member

    hi, i'm new to coin collecting and i was interested in getting some indian head cents, and noticed this forum going on... i was hoping to purchase some 1890's, a 1901, 05, and 07 indian head cents from a local woman, i'm thinking they're about good to maybe a little better than good, she seems to think they're in vf condition...anyways, what do you think is a fair price to offer her? i offered her $25.00 for the indian head cents, a 1913 type2? buffalo, 1914 barber, (you can read liberty in the headband) but there's black pitting on the reverse, and a 1913D jefferson, any knowledge from you would be appreciated... she emailed me the pictures and i'm looking for a 2nd opinion... thank you for your time - robert.
     
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