1893 indian penny error?

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  1. Ob77

    Ob77 Member

    Any one know what the "S" could be about on the reverse.[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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  3. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Could you please clarify as to exactly where this supposed "S" is?
     
  4. Ob77

    Ob77 Member

    ONE"s"
    CENT

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  5. Ob77

    Ob77 Member

    Its raised thats why i have the suspicion.

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  6. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Those bright areas suggest cleaning.
     
  7. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Your coin has taken a lot of hits and dings. I don't see any raised S after the ONE on the reverse, only some marks that look like damage

    I do see a big ding on the obverse to the lower right of the ear that matches up with the reverse area after the E. It looks to me that what ever caused the damage on the front also is responsible for what you see on the reverse. You can also see this on the big dent on the lower wreath under the C. It matches up with the damage next to STATES in the field.

    Sorry, but it's only a damaged coin
     
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  8. Ob77

    Ob77 Member

    I really find it hard to believe you cant see this. And i understand it has damage. But my question is not about the damage.[​IMG]

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  9. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    I seriously don't see an S after the E. Just discoloration and circulation damage. Just think about what you are asking for a second. Heck, I can create an S in my mind on the neck on the obverse. Look at the shiny part. It's discoloration and damage.
     
  10. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Gotta admit that looks like an "S" to me, even with serifs.
     
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  11. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    What your seeing is due to the damage. Sorry, but it's not an error.
     
  12. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I see the S looking object. Damage makes the most sense, so most people will say damage without really even looking at it or thinking about it. I'm not sure what to make of it.
     
  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    It does look like an S, are you saying it's a clash from the S in STATES from another coin? Would that or a vise job create a reverse S? (IDK just asking.)
     
  14. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    this, right?[​IMG]
     
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  15. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Think it through a little. It can't be a clash from the obverse. I can't think of any other coin from that time period that has that size S, yet alone in a location where it could be mated to the reverse in a press to show up in that location. Plus a clash would have be a reversed image.

    Overstruck on another coin with the S being the only remnant? What other coin using a copper planchet would have that size S in that specific location. There aren't even any silver coins that would have that size S in that location.

    So what part of the minting process could have caused it? None that I know about.

    But, the coin does exhibit a lot of digs, dents and scratches/gouges, including a dent directly opposite the "S". Dents can push up metal on the opposite side of the coin. It may seem like an S but it is just an artifact from the damage.
     
  16. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
     
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  17. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    The same can be said about seeing Jesus or Jerry Garcia hiding out on your morning toast. Fortunately or unfortunately, the cause is still the same.... ;)
     
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  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Dropped letter? I see something.
     
  19. Galen59

    Galen59 Gott helfe mir

    looks like repeated hammer strikes with a screw driver, not a clue what to make of the "s" doesn't look like the "s" on the obv.
     
  20. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    OMG...
     
  21. Ob77

    Ob77 Member

    Im just saying i def looks like an s to me. Not exactly sure from what cause. But it reminds me of the 1970 quarter struck on a 1941 Canada coin.. Thats why i raise the question. Regardless that is a S. @derkerlegan that pic is exactly what i see. Just an odd find is all [emoji41] [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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