well I got this one today and the coin in hand is really attractive . Reverse especially . I was hoping it did not have rim damage but it appears to have some rim rash and I fear it would detail the coin. Just curious opinions on this. The rest of the coin is nicer in hand than even the pics
Interesting. Are those file marks? Is it possible the rim took a hit then someone tried to repair it? If those marks were intentional I’m not sure she will straight grade. You may want to consider returning it if possible. A beautiful coin otherwise.
I agree with Dynoking, it's as though they ran the file from front back. Is there a rough feeling on the side ? Also, are there local shows in your area ? I'd take it and get opinions. Beautiful tone, I love them.
I don’t know it looks like it took a hit but not sure how pcgs will take it so best to return while I can just in case . The bummer is I paid a hundred and if it came back even 63 for vam 1a2 it’s worth double that at least.
Will any TPG authenticate the coin UNC Details with the VAM attribution? Or maybe it is best to bail while you can. I would think the seller tried (and maybe failed?) to enhance the coins value. That why you got a $200 coin for $100. One thing I have learned when looking at something for sale (house, car, coin) or even when I trying to find a mate; you look at the item or person for exactly what it is in front of you, not for what it could be.
Looks to have a few probably from being in a album . I’m not concerned with those though as they don’t really bring down the eye appeal at all.
The rim damage is minor and does not take away the eye appeal of the rest of the coin. We have three complete sets of Morgan and Peace dollars. In any condition they are all keepers, yours also. Thanks for sharing and good luck.
It doesn’t bother me but since I’m building a graded E clash set I just worry it will come back details though I’m sure I could sell it if it does
@COOPER12 That is an attractive coin (the fingerprints IMO don't detract--they blend into the overall toned field). The scraped area on the Reverse Rim is not overly deep, doesn't even touch the Denticles, and although lighter than the adjacent undisturbed Rim still has toning. The TPG's base the grade mainly on the appearance of the Obverse, so IMO I feel that you can get an MS (maybe a 65) grade IF you submitted it. Yes @Dynoking the TPG's will still grade a Top 100 coin even if Details Graded as-long-as you pay the Variety Attribution fee. If you still have doubts may I suggest sending it to ANACS (lowest overall cost) and see what it grades; their Variety Attribution Verification Fee is only $9 since you know what the VAM is.
someone else mentioned it may de from a detached lamination as well , though I do not know enough on that subject.
As @FarmerBill said--great photos! The "marks" do look somewhat like one might expect if they took a narrow file to the edge and made one light pass, but why? Even contemporary users of Morgan Dollars and subsequent collectors had to know that that coin was genuine; yes, in the early days of federal silver and especially gold coinage some persons actually bit into the coin to see if it was actually authentic (e.g. not gold plated lead), but that is not the case here. If someone wanted to remove some of the metal to accumulate for later use they more than likely would have removed much more than that little area of the Rim. IMO, a plausible explanation may be that that Reverse Rim Edge may have contacted a part of the Press Mechanism during coin ejection as the Reverse faces the Anvil Die and is exposed when the Die rises after the coin is struck and is then moved by the Ejection Slide into the Collection Bin.
The second set of pictures causes me to second guess my opinion of filing. The surface is too wavy. A filed surface would be flat. Would tooling have been a better term? Tamaracian's explanation of a mechanical issue may be more plausible. Perhaps some of our error experts can offer an opinion? Tamaracian's suggestion of using ANACS may be your best bet if you are intent on keeping your coin. I had the same thought but we were leaning toward using your return privilege. You have the coin in hand. How distracting is the rim rash to you? You have a $200 + coin for $100. Only you can make a value judgement. Great post! Happy collecting, all the best! PS I currently have over 500 Morgans to examine. I'm jonesing for a clashed E myself...
