1887P Morgan DDR

I'm going brain dead. It's a 1878P, does it look like a DDR?

Picked this up fairly inexpensive and notice a little extra;

 

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Looks like douling to me, possibly the VAM24. VAMworld - 1887-P VAM-24
Does it have the polish line on the eagle's left wing?

 

Here's a couple more pics. Doesn't resemble the vam-24

 

Oops I just noticed, it's a 78', I was going by the title that says 87', funny enough check out the 87P VAM24 it matches pretty good . Let me check the 78s now.

 

Yeah and like a dummy I didn't notice it either.

 

Here's the first thing I noticed, it definitely has the "missing nostril", I'll keep on looking.

* Also it is missing details in the lower hair.

 

Since it's the short nock, the VAM190A VAMworld - 1878-P VAM-190Amatches, if it has the clashed N, those clashes can be real hard to spot sometimes though.

 

Here it is; the coin doesn't have the clash marks
http://www.vamworld.com/1878-P+VAM-190

Thanks raider34, this is very much appreciated.

 

Is there enough of a photo to get and idea of the grade for this coin anyone?

 

Ah off by the A , Nice find, a lot of over-polishing on that Morgan!
Btw congrats on 1000 :thumb:

 

Oh yeah thanks, didn't even notice

 

To answer the first question:
No, not a doubled die.

 

I agree not a doubled die the images are to distorted to be a DDR not clean and rounded could be a form of die deterioration or Md

JC

 

I noticed the VAM website didn't work. When it's back online, look at that # and I think your answer will change to yes.

 

The coin to,me still doesn't look like a doubled die The letters have doubling on both sides and to me it's a clear indication of another form of doublng
Notice the O in the Motto doubling on both sides of the letter in the red arrows,and distorted images and if you look close it looks like triple or even more

The coins grade is about a AU58 strong one

The obverse has some wear on the upper flowers and hairlines

The cheek has alot of abrasion marks.

The reverse has wear on the breast the focal area

The pics are hard to give you an accuarate grade. I really don;t like grading coins from a photo but i think i;m close

I have examine this coin serveral times with different feelings about it. My opinion not a doubed die as I said before

joe

 

I am almost 100% that this coin is VAM190. Imo the motto on the reverse definitely shows die doubling, and it matches the doubling of VAM190 perfectly.

 

I think what the others are saying is that it doubling but not a doubled die. And it matches the VAM-190 perfectly.

 

Doubled dies don't have doubling on both sides of the letters they are clean rounded raised images without any distorted look to them, this doubling seems to have indication of Die Deterioration doubling ,and possible mixed in MD as well

There are Vams with doubling on them, but not doubled dies such as this one.What you are not noticing in the listing of the vams described it says doubling, but not doubled die.

They will add in a form of doubling if it's on a coin ,and list it in the Vams description

They do it to give it a new vam number to show the different classfications of the vam number listings.

Joe

 

http://dmplvam.com/VAM/1887/
This should help:kewl: