1884-O Morgan. Spot the problems.

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  1. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    How many problems or concerns can you find? Lighting from 2 angles.
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  3. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. I see the obvious large ugly spot on her face. I see a large mark on her nose, and I see what looks to be a small lamination on her jaw.

    Honestly, if I were looking at this for purchase, I would see the big spot and put it down immediately, I wouldn't even look for anything else.
     
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  4. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    What I'm getting at? Spot the problems. Pretty simple thread.
     
  5. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    What I mean is, when there is a thread like this, there is often one really obvious problem and then a hidden problem. I'm not seeing the hidden problem - just the obvious spot.
     
  6. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    That's grease. Some might see that as a problem and others might see that as being desirable.
     
  7. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Is this a non CC in a gsa? I don't see the tabs but I'm not sure.
     
  8. charlietig

    charlietig Well-Known Member

    Simple or stupid?
     
  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I see one big one and two (that I don't consider problems) little ones.

    I don't think so!
     
  10. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Grease is desirable? Not so unless it created a struck through coin and was gone.
     
  11. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

    It's a mint error. To some like me, that's desirable. One mans junk is another's treasure.
     
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  12. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Not all "mint errors" are desirable. If you are willing to pay a premium for it, I'll sell it to you for a premium.... but I certainly wouldn't buy it for one. It's ugly and distracting, in my opinion. It detracts from both the grade and the value - and I'm guessing a TPG would agree with me.
     
  13. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Correct. It would most likely be net graded down a point
     
  14. DysfunctionalVeteran

    DysfunctionalVeteran Oddly enough

  15. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Anna's "hairclip" and the poorly defined breast feathers stand out to me.
     
  16. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Spot removed, and altered surfaces. Luster looks unnatural.
     
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  17. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Meh, $25 more than I would spend for it.

    But if it makes you happy, go for it.
     
  18. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Well-Known Member

    That mark below her eye.
     
  19. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Probably not net graded but it appears someone tried to lessen the spot with a touch-up of dip on it. Probably rates Unc "details."

    Good score! IMO, worth the price and it can be "fixed" enough to appear as a natural mint error.
     
  20. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I was not inferring it was junk. You said the spot was grease. Grease on a coin is not desirable for (me). You got a reasonable deal at $25.00 and if you are happy with your purchase, then that is all that matters. And I do collect errors, just not ones with spots on them. No offense was intended.
     
  21. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    The luster is perfectly natural. On the small percentage of the fields where it hasn't been removed by something. :)

    Which is the other problem.
     
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