Hi guys, Do you think this IHC could be a proof? Nice, sharp strike (mostly on the obv), but I don't know what the characteristics for proofs are. Has a few unfortunate marks on the cheek. Also, as i was taken the pics I realized it has an "L" on the ribbon, much like the 1864-L cent. Is this typical of proofs? Thanks all, Eduard
By your pics that does not look like a proof at all no indication of any mirror like surfaces if it were a proof you would see some indications of that even if it happen to be in ciculation for awhile a nice coin indeed a nice strike ,except for the heavy hits on the cheek JC
If I had to guess, I would say no. However, let me ask you a question -- are the fields mirrored inside the shield on the reverse? On a proof, they will be, on a prooflike IHC (a fairly rare coin) they won't be.
No. If it were a Proof the rims would be full and flat. Are the edges squared off? The 'L' (for Longacre) is found on all IHCs starting with the new bronze composition in 1864.
I'd have to go with AU, maybe MS I don't see much luster...either way graded down because of the scratches on the observe...ANYWAY Nice coin better (much) than any of my IHs
Ok guys, thank for the comments. This one does not seem to have luster within the shield, and no squared rims either, so no proof. Oh, I feel p....d! this is the only IHC I ever paid 'real' money for (came from a Spinks auction and described as proof).
Yep - I think he meant the stacks auctions. He has bought and posted several coins from those auctions.
They are not a big deal, but they are a very long-time dealer and auction house in NYC. Although their grades and descriptions leave a lot to be desired, they are generally very good with attribution (proof -vs- non-proof) and authenticity.
As Byrd740 pointed out, Spinks is a well established auction house, with their main location in London. That is where i bought this coin back in 1988. Maybe they are not as well versed in US coinage and goofed this one.