Hey y’all, Hope everyone is having a good Christmas Season. I was thinking of picking this coin up. I’m fairly sure it’s PL, not sure on DMPL, think the reverse might be a little short of DMPL, but this is my first real experience with PL/DMPL coins. Also what are you thoughts on grade? I see a decent bit of marks, but I’ve heard that Bag Marks don’t factor into grades. Could be wrong but currently I’m at 62PL. Sorry for not the best photos, these are the only ones I could get. Also, price I’ve got it down to is $230. Thanks for any help!
It's hard to tell from those photos. 1882-CC Morgans in graded MS 63 PL holders (PCGS and NGC) are selling in the $225-$275 range currently on eBay. MS 63 DMPL examples are more expensive (latest eBay sales are in the $400-$475 range). I'm not sure that the coin is worth the risk (and grading costs) at $230 based on that photo. Check sold prices of PL and DMPL examples in 62, 63, and 64 holders and see if you believe the coin is worth it.
Is this an in hand purchase? If so ask to see the coin out of the flip. then measure the depth of the surfaces. Seems much nicer than a 62PL.
Nope it’s online. I trust this guy but at the same time, I never go off the grade the dealer lists. If you can see he has it at 63/64 DMPL.
I saw that. Buying from photos you have to trust your gut. I don't disagree with the 63/64 in todays grading standards. The PL and DMPL is one you would have to check with your own eyes to be satisfied. I like how frosty the devices are compared to the surfaces. But IMO it really depends on the coins reflectivity.
I’d agree with those two posts. 63PL sounds reasonable. Hits/marks are more distracting on coins with PL-surfaces, so don’t be too hard with this coin...
There are examples graded PL and DMPL from this die pairing, VAM-3. Based on the images provided it appears to be at least PL.
I think it is definitely PL. It is really hard to tell PL versus DPL from pictures alone, because I don't know how this guy has his lights set up, or what editing he's done to the photo. I can take a picture of a PL that you would swear was DPL - so you'll have to wait and see in hand. Don't know who told you that, but that is completely false. Contact marks on the surface of the coin are one of the most significant grade drivers. As for this coin - there are a fair number of marks on Liberty's cheek. This is one of the focal areas, so marks here hurt the grade more. The fields appear fairly clear of marks, especially the reverse. The strike is average, but the eye appeal with the slight contrast between devices and fields is attractive. I would grade this one at 63PL. I feel that is a fair price for that coin.
