1880 trade dollar real?

hi everyone.i need help from anyone experienced in trade dollars.i came accros an 1880 trade dollar.can anyone tell me if it is real and what market value it has.many thanks

 

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I have my doubts. Have you weighed it?

 

hi.it has 25 g, i know that it should have 27.2g but i read that it can loose 6% due to wear

 

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I'll let some more experienced hands jump in. But the trade dollar has been so often faked, I wouldn't buy it if it wasn't graded and slabbed.

 

If it had a lot of wear not just a little bit. I agree with Santini that with trade dollars it is best to stick to already graded ones

 

hi.how can i find for sure if it is real or not?

 

The denticles around the edge give me cause for serious pause. And the 1880 was a proof-only date.

 

Is that the real color?

 

it looks darker

 

That was my thinking as well, but the mint issued whatever they didn't sell at the time, so circulated proofs are not all that uncommon. That said, the denticles should remain sharp with this low amount of wear.

 

I realize silver can tone darker, but it should probably look like a silver coin.
25g compared to 27.22g is an 8% loss. When coins lose weight because of wear, it's not that much, and the coin is worn smooth. Red flags.

 

i used just a regular kitchen scale.i might use a proffesional scale maybe.what i read in the forums is that most fakes are around 18g.also this coin came with a 1925 half dollar that is authentic and i think its a big chance is as well

 

Was it a bargain?

 

yes it was.i got it from an old lady who s granparents lived in usa in 1900.

 

A fake can be any weight, light, heavy or the same weight.
If the other coin is genuine that could just be a ploy.
I don't understand the dark brown copper color. Maybe some silver collectors can weigh in.

 

the colour is acctualy silver, im trying to upload more pictures

 

and this is the 1925 half dollar..and is the same colour

 

I'm running on post-Irma internet, and had a big long post typed out, but then I was able to see one of the pics full size.

Without a doubt, that is a fake trade dollar. 1880 was a proof only year, and those denticles and the rim look like a cheap casting.

Don't buy it at any price.

The Stone Mountain ain't right either.

 

Washington is said to have thrown a silver dollar across the Delaware. Try that. If it bounces back, it's fake.

 

This might be helpful and or informative:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/4-Update-FAKE-TRADE-DOLLARS-/10000000000991429/g.html