1880 DDO Indian Cent ! full liberty

1880 DDO Indian cent nice full liberty.. "Sharing is Caring"!:hail:

 

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I see no DDO.

 

date and United States of America Light spread on liberty also die clash on reverse non-cents you should know this die!!! ...Not the greatest example of the 1880 DDO

 

This would be an off-center clash but I'm not seeing it.
No way to see the DDO from those images.

 

I take it your telling us this is the S1 (CONECA 1-0-III) ? I don't see any evidence of any of the die markers in these pictures. Can you get us some close up shots of the Liberty on the Obv and the area above the E in Cents on the Rev please..???

 

Oh I bet you non cents knows this doubled die.... but this isn't it.

 

I have to agree No DDO.
but zoom in on 2nd 8 18->8<-0 there something there that make me think re-punched date???

 

Doubledieking...not a single coin you have posted so far has been a doubled die. That alone should tell you somethng. Whether it is more research you need to do or purchase a few beginner DDOs to know what they look like, I would suggest you do something to help yourself start correctly identifying doubled dies. This is the internet, and it's full of. Great resources such as doubleddie.com, lincolncentresource.com, and error-ref.com...three websites I would highly recommend reading.

 

non cents all I ever see you do is talk about what other people post like you are some expert ! You know a little bit my son but not much about doubled dies ,because if you knew so much you would have examples to post other than the 1972 ,1941, and the 1995 . As far as I'm concerned until you can keep up and post examples to share showing doubled dies! I don't want to hear it. I want you to share!!!!!:dead-horse:Oh yeah learn where and what to look at before you judge and also since your so good why don't you have a job at PGCS ??? Just saying!!!:hail:Bye,Bye " I speak against Bullies " " I speak for the weak"! cause all it sounds is like non-cents!!!!

 

I've sold and bought many doubled dies. I don't need to physically own them to know what they look like. Owning them has nothing to do with knowledge. I do know a lot about them, maybe not as much as some of the experts here, but I know enough to tell when a coin is not a doubled die. Unfortunately, it just seems that most of the coins you post are not doubled dies. If you don't want opinions on your coins, don't post them.

 

This is what the reverse should look like. The OP coin is not this variety.

 

Chill out Doug been here 1 time + 2times it will get a lock most likely.

 

The fact you mention the spread is on both the date and the lettering is a red flag. Doubled dies are caused during the creation of the die and the date is not a part of the die during the hubbing. So if the spread is the same on both the lettering AND the date it most likely is NOT a doubled die.

 

This is so ridiculosly incorrect im extremley agitated at you. Im not non_cents, but how dare you? He knows what he talks about, obviously much more than you. Its not like ATLEAST one person here thinks this is a doubled die. You need much more experience, and you obviously dont know a Fraction about doubled dies compared to non_cents.

 

doubledieking18
You make yourself look not so smart when suggesting that non cents don't know what he is talking about. I have read many post where a lot of members will agree with what non cents is stating. Finding the answer you are looking for will be better achieved by reading what non cents and other members are telling you. The answer you want to here and the true answer is always going to be different.
Thanks Big Ed

 

Perhaps somebody can enlighten me on what an "expert" is in errors and varieties?

I have read many of Noncents post and I have to say that thus far I agree with far more than I don't agree with.

 

Although I appreciate the support from other members, I don't want this thread to turn into a "defend non_cents" thread. The issue at hand is the OP's reluctance to take the advice of forum members.

The term "expert" is suggestive. But I would consider anyone who can identify a doubled die 9 times out of 10, have a good understanding of the die making process and how doubled dies occur, as well as the different types of "worthless" doubling and how they happen to be very knowledgable in die varieties.

 

Stick to the topic of this coin or this thread will be locked!!!

 

ok, back on topic.. I see no DDO, can you perhaps get some closeup shots of the area that your seeing the doubling in?

 

An image of the obverse probably won't show that it's the variety.
It's really tough to see. The reverse off center clash marks are the easy way to tell.
This obverse image and the reverse I posted above were taken by Todd. The doubling is on LIBER.
http://bluccphotos.com/clients/ldhair/1-22-12/Pages/7.html