1879 IHC (from the raw box)

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  1. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    When I started collecting about 12 years ago, I bought a number of raw coins from advertisers in Coin World. A number of these advertised as BU were actually sliders; some were cleaned; a few were actually as advertised. I don't remember how this coin was described; in hand, the fields are very reflective, there is no rub on the high points.
    I thought I might have a proof, but after looking at the enlarged photos, I am not so sure. At worst, it's a decent UNC. Your thoughts welcomed...
    1879 IHC raw obv.jpg 1879 IHC raw rev.jpg
     
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  3. J.T. Parker

    J.T. Parker Well-Known Member

    Is that quite a bit of hub-doubling on the 'United States' ??
    Nice Indian head cent.
    J.,T.
     
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  4. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It does look a little funny there, I think I agree.
     
  5. Marsden

    Marsden Well-Known Member

    Funny I didn't notice the doubling until you pointed it out, yet now it's as clear as day to me. I never understood how it could happen on just some text like that, but then there's a lot I don't understand.

    Beautiful IHC, one of the best I can remember seeing. It wouldn't have occurred to me that it might be a proof though—what are the telltales of that? On a very old coin such as this, I mean.
     
  6. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I had not even noticed that! thanks!
    on exam with the 9x loupe, I don't see any split serifs, so I think it is most likely machine doubling. I don't know if there is a documented DDO for this date.
    I thought it might be a proof because the fields were so reflective in hand. But in the photos the feather tips and diamonds don't look sharp enough to be a proof, I think.
     
  7. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I'm not so sure about the originality of the color, or the semi-"prooflike" qualities you described, but regardless, that's a sharp one. Very nice.
     
  9. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Thanks, it looks more coppery in hand. Just a tough one to photograph.
     
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  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    Called Longacre doubling.

    Nice coins, possibly cleaned, not an Unc, you can see wear --
    Probable AU
     
  11. psuman08

    psuman08 Active Member

    Agree with cleaned AU. It is another slider
     
  12. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Thanks for all the comments. I don't see any signs of a cleaning, but I believe there is some rub on the high points, so AU
     
  13. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I bought one of those USB microscopes, and just figured out how to use it. here are closeups of the Longacre doubling, and the L on the ribbon:
    1879 IHC closeup doubling.jpg 1879 IHC closeup L on ribbon.jpg
     
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  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Outstanding!!!
     
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