1879-CC large over small mint mark

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  1. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Picked this up today. Don't have my endoscope handy, so I apologize for the quality of these pics. Apparently, the variety I picked out is a large mint mark over small mint mark variety, which I'm trying to learn more about.

    Does the mint mark overage add any significant value? Also, I'm finding info about the large CC variety, but nothing about a small CC type?

    Would it be safe to grade this VG-8 or does it make it up to F-12 in your opinion?

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  3. cpm9ball

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  4. jgrinz

    jgrinz Senior Member

    This is called a capped die
    Search for that and you should find all the information you need.
    Nice coin
    VAM-3 I think
     
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  5. Penna_Boy

    Penna_Boy Just a nobody from the past

    What jgrinz says:
    1879 CC Morgan Dollars : CC Over CC - Capped Die
    Early Silver Dollars
    Mintage: 756,000

    Minted at: Carson City

    Designer - Engraver: George T Morgan

    Metal Composition: 90% Silver - 10% Copper

    Diameter: 38.1 mm

    Mass / Weight: 26.73 grams

    What This Coin Looks Like (Obverse, Reverse, Mint Mark Location, Special Features, etc.):
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  6. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Yes, VAM 3. The unfortunate nickname "Capped Die" has absolutely nothing to do with a die cap. I'm not sure where this name came from, but it was not Leroy Van Allen. He refers to it as Large over Small CC. In some background info on the date, he refers to the "so-called capped CC". I see the VAMWorld uses the term Capped Die where it shouldn't be. I'll correct that tonight.
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It will add a little value. It is also a lower mintage coin.
     
  8. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Looks more like F than VG. The VAM 3 doesn't carry a premium over the normal mint mark, as it is the most common variety for the year. There was actually a time when it was discounted, since collectors wanted a "perfect CC" on their coin. The small CC was used in 1878. When the large CC was punched over it, it seems to have been a bit of a hack job, making a bit of a mess out of the die.
     
  9. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Nice coin I like it. All Morgans are worthy of recognition to me. I purchase but do not sell any of our Morgans. In my opinion It would be up to the grader but F-12 is not out of the question... Best of luck.
     
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  10. Penna_Boy

    Penna_Boy Just a nobody from the past

    I fully agree but......you should see some of the 'Capped Die' prices on EBay. The way it's hyped up you'd think it was a rare specimen.
     
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  11. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Ebay sellers can sometime ask outrageous prices for any CC. Be safe and not sorry.
     
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