1878 CC Morgan Grade Poll

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Mark Metzger, Feb 12, 2023.


Predict the grade!

  1. UNC Details (fine lines/cleaned)

    14 vote(s)
  2. MS-63

    0 vote(s)
  3. MS-63PL

    0 vote(s)
  4. MS-64

    0 vote(s)
  5. MS-64PL

    0 vote(s)
  6. MS-65

    1 vote(s)
  7. MS-65PL

    0 vote(s)
  8. MS-66

    0 vote(s)
  9. MS-66PL

    0 vote(s)
  1. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Let’s see what folks think the grade on this Vam-11 CC Morgan would be. I’ll probably send her in as she is raw presently.
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  3. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    I see it as marginal whether or not to submit it for slabbing.
    I think it's been cleaned.
    If so, then I'd place its value at about $200.
    Slabbing would be an expense that would not be recovered.
    IMO the coin would still be worth $200.
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2023
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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I'm gonna predict UNC details/cleaned, though I guess there's a small chance it might get a pass. Hope so.
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  5. bsshog40

    bsshog40 Senior Member

    I'm in the Details crowd.
  6. Alexthegreat

    Alexthegreat Active Member

    Ms61 due to the scratches and the partial hairlines in the field. Otherwhise unc details
  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am also in the details camp.
    AU details. The first photo shows a hazyness to the fields.
  8. toned_morgan

    toned_morgan Toning Lover

    Uh oh I'm worried this might be cleaned but it might be the way you took the photo. There's a lot of random marks and hazy stuff on the obverse, a typical sign of cleaning. If not cleaned I would say a good 63 or 64, not PL. PL needs to look like a mirror in the fields
  9. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I wouldn’t send in for slabbing. It’s been cleaned and would come back Unc, Details, Cleaned. You’d never recover the fees. Shame since in good shape otherwise, a first year issue and a CC. Enjoy her as she is.
  11. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    I love Morgans yours too! To many opinions @MarkMetzger I'll keep mine out. You should do well sending it in thanks for sharing.
  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Those field lines definitely look raised in these photos, but if they're die-polishing lines, someone must've polished the die with the bottom of his shoe.
  13. LRC-Tom

    LRC-Tom Been around the block...

    This is a remarkable illustration of how lighting angle can impact a person's assessment of a coin. We have the same coin showing major hairlines (or maybe die polishing, but I think this is doubtful) on a couple of images, and no trace of these lines on others. An eBay bidder would make a bid decision based on the images presented. Which ones do you think would be presented here?
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  14. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I will opine MS details, cleaned; the lines to me appear to stop short of the devices; especially the patches of them behind Liberty's head. Also note how they stop before they get to the stars on the left. That's why I don't think it's die polish.
  15. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    This is why I only bid on/buy coins slabbed by NGC or PCGS.
  16. psuman08

    psuman08 Active Member

    Agreed. Spend the saved money on more coins!
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  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    That’s for sure! :)
  18. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The fourth photo down, of the obverse, shows a bit patch of hairlines. I've had coins bounced back to me in body bags for less.
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