1858 Indian head cent

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Danielle Skasko, Dec 18, 2013.

  1. Danielle Skasko

    Danielle Skasko Active Member

    I found this in my house...it has very faded 1858 on it. I read they didn't start making these 1859...any info is much appreciated..
     

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  3. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Are you positive it is a 1858? If so it has to be a pattern cent, if it's the real deal. It is really worn and I can't read the date, but the reverse appears to have the laurel wreath. Check out J 208 on this link. If it's real and a 1858, it should be that one. It would also be worth a pretty penny. Pun intended.

    http://www.indianheads.org/Patterns.html
     
  4. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    Call me a skeptic, but it seems unlikely that a pattern coin could have circulated so heavily. I personally think it's probably an 1859 that's just worn down and not worth much over $5. We'll see what others think though!
     
  5. Danielle Skasko

    Danielle Skasko Active Member

    I wish there was a way to show you. I used a loupe...
     
  6. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    Have you tried taking it to a local coin shop? I'm sure someone who has it in hand can evaluate the coin more thoroughly, but let's see what others here have to say.
     
  7. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    If you truly think it is, take the time to research it. If I am looking at this correctly, the only 58 pattern with this obv/rev design was J-208. Since you've the coin in hand, don't concern yourself with what the date looks like; check placement, and if it does not exactly match to the aforementioned variety, this should trump what you believe looks to be an 8.
     
  8. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    I'm not so sure........ ?
     
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  9. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    you have to prove the date with photos of the date, othewise just hear-say
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    spammer
     
  11. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    And "poof" it went! Thank goodness, that was an odd post that read like a book written by Gary Busey!
     
  12. Danielle Skasko

    Danielle Skasko Active Member

    I'm taking this to a coin shop Saturday....I will let you all know the results.....hopefully they can take a couple of good pics as well....
     
  13. Danielle Skasko

    Danielle Skasko Active Member

    image.jpg image.jpg This is the best I could do the 8 is so faded
     
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  15. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    I'm fairly certain the OP's coin is a '59. I put these three images together so you can see the difference. The first coin is the OP coin, the second is a graded '59 and the third is the pattern. Note the difference in the position of the 5 in the date.
    image-horz.jpg
     
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  16. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    yes, conclusively an 1859.
     
  17. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    Almost looks like a 2
     
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  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Forget the position (which can change since the dates are punched in by hand) notice that the 1858 date is straight while the 1859 is curved following the rim. Two different logotype punches.
     
  19. David e Dennis

    David e Dennis One Penny lotta money

    looks like an eight to me
     
  20. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Thanks for the correction on the date punches Conder. I was in the 20th century die making mode of thinking.
     
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