1858 FEC..Machine Doubling

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by mark_h, May 31, 2008.

  1. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I got this coin today - just loved the machine doubling on it. Blow up the picture at look, at the date, the left of the eagle, the top of United. You can see it on the reverse also - completely around the wreath if you look hard enough. I included some of snap shots. Sometimes I am easily impressed - and besides it is nicer than my current 1858 small letters.

    Now would someone confirm my reasoning for saying machine doubling. I first looked at it and thought doubling - like in DDO. I stopped then looked again and came to the conclusion it was machine doubling because - if double struck I should be able to see two eyes to the eagle, I should be able to see a second upper point to the 1, and the same for the I in UNITed. Was this sound reasoning or just lucky reasoning? Or am I wrong.

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Looks like mechanical doubling to me.
     
  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    You are correct. It's machine doubling. Cool coin.
     
  5. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

    That's a great example of MD.
     
  6. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    So I figured it was md, but was my reasoning correct? Did I get that right?
     
  7. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I concur. It looks like machine doubling to me. Notice the "terracing"? That occurred when the die chattered and sheared off the metal as it moved. That distinguishes machine doubling from die doubling.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    I agree, that's what makes me think it is mechanical doubling.

    As to your line of reasoning Mark, I would have to say that no it is not valid. Mechanical doubling often only affects certain areas while no sign of it at all is seen in other adjoining areas. I don't know of anyone who has ever come up with an explanation of why that is exactly, it just is.
     
  9. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Thanks. I was just reading an this link. Right, but for the wrong reasons.
     
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