1857 Seated Liberty Half Dime - 180 degree rotated reverse

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by ZoidMeister, Aug 28, 2020.

  1. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Gents / Ladies,

    Same request as before. Approximate value as you see it.

    I would grade this one as an F / VF coin. Probably dipped years ago, but toning back a nice golden yellow. Difficult to see in the lighting I have tonight. I need to get in better light with a mirror to prove this one, but use the staples as touchstones.

    180 degree rotated reverse. I bought this coin when I was in my 20's and ignorant. Fortunately, the LCS that sold it to me wasn't very observant. I didn't notice the rotated reverse until I got home.

    Because of the minting process and how coins are made, I am guessing there are quite of few of these amongst the surviving coins. this isn't a "one off" error, right? They had to have run the presses for a while before discovering this one, right?

    Or, say I'm wrong . . . . .

    I will post better photos later when I can get in better light, but you "get the picture."

    What say the CT intelligentsia? What value would you give this coin?

    Thanks in advance.

    Z



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  3. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    I think it could pass as a VF20 if there were no cleaning (based on provided pics). I'm not your guy for values but based on what I've seen $15-20 seems like a fair range.

    Rotated reverses are more common in this era of coinage opposed to post-civil war era coins, you wouldn't get the same premium as you would the same error on say a morgan dollar.

    More/better pictures will help, thanks for sharing.
     
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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Neat rotated reverse. Looks VF to me, if I squint at the low-res pictures just enough.

    Numismedia puts a VF20 at $25, retail. I think the rotated dies might be worth a tiny premium, but couldn't say how much.
     
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  5. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Story of my life . . . .

    At least I'm ahead of MOST of those posting WT errors on CoinTalk. This one has SOME value . . . . . . @rolleyes.JPG

    I'll try to post some mo' betta photos a bit later. It was a quick couple of shots last night.

    Z
     
  6. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Thank you @ZoidMeister for posting Full Image. Your photos are a bit out of focus and having to look at it through the plastic of the 2x2 makes it worse. I would like to see good, clear photos with it out of the 2x2 and a neutral background (cropped to show mostly the coin, of course).
    Back in the day, operators could put the anvil die in incorrectly, resulting in your coin, especially if the worker had learned his trade in Europe, which mints its coins with the medallic orientation, verses the US using the coin orientation, so you are correct when you said, "I am guessing there are quite of few of these amongst the surviving coins."
     
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  7. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    You will find some years/mintmarks very common, e.g. 1861 Trime (3 cent silver).

    Exactly 180 degrees is most likely the wrong setup, but smaller #s are often a set screw that came loose.

    Either way, nice!
     
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  8. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .


    Photographing this tiny little thing is tough in the light that I currently have. It might go better at work, but here is what I have at the moment.

    What I thought was wear on this old coin might actually be a very light strike? I am interested in y'alls thoughts on this one.

    Click on the images to enlarge.

    Z




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  9. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    I've got to get a better camera. Maybe I should try my (cheap) cell phone . . . . .
     
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