1857 Flying Eagle Grade? NTC

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  1. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    Here is an 1857 Flying Eagle Cent Graded by NTC. Please let me know what you think the grade is and tell me if you think it is a double die obv.

    Thanks Tom
     
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  3. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    Here is the pics
     

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  4. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    There are scratches on the plastic just to let you know
     
  5. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    tdec1000,

    I believe that it will grade out at F-15! There is a little too much wear on the Eagle's tail and the Reverse to grade at VF-20. I can see some doubling on the Date...especially on the "7" but can't make out any other doubling. You might try cropping the pictures a little more which should help in making the pictures of the coin a little bigger.


    Frank
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Tom:
    There are five listed double die obverses listed by Richard Snow.
    Two, S-4 and S-15 show doubling on the eagle's eye.
    The others show minor doubling in United, America and (#3)= Uni and Stat.
    None of the doubling is visable in a photo like the one that you show, you would have to use microphotographs to show the doubling.
    Frank:
    I can't see the doubling on the date that you mention, but if it is there, it would not be a part of the doubled die, since the date was punched in separately on each die and not part of the original die preparation.
    The date 'doubling' would be a repunched date. This is not to say that it is not repunched, but Snow does not list one, but, I have found repunched dates in different series that are not listed in any reference books.
    The Other Frank
     
  7. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I'm not that good at grading FE Cents but I think F sounds about right.
    As for the DD I can't see the detail large enough to tell.

    Speedy
     
  8. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    The eye is somewhat doubled. I will try and get better pictures later today or tommarow. Tom
     
  9. sf340flier

    sf340flier New Member

    I think you may be able to squeeze a VF-20 out of this! Nice coin.
     
  10. der_meister77

    der_meister77 Senior Member

    I definitely think it grades at VF-20, possibly VF-30. There are too many details left on the eagles head, and breast for me to really consider F-12 an option. The rims and denticles are also very nice (too nice for fine).
     
  11. der_meister77

    der_meister77 Senior Member

    With a second look I am going to lean heavily toward VF-20 because of the minor nicks on the reverse and uneven wearing on the obverse.
     
  12. 09S-V.D.B

    09S-V.D.B Coin Hoarder

    Looks like a nice VF-20 IMO.
     
  13. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    I would tend to lean toward a VF 20 on the coin. The front of the coin has a pleasant looking wear to it. The back, though doesn't quite have the same eye appeal of the front. The pics aren't close enough for me to distinguish any doubling. What grade did NTC give it???
     
  14. Coinlover

    Coinlover The Coin Collector

    i see some doubling in the 5 and 7. i would grade it a vf-20
     
  15. tdec1000

    tdec1000 Coin Rich, Money Poor :D

    They graded it a VF-30 . I believe it is a ddo. I will post pictures soon. The coin looks a lot better in hand than the photos suggest.
     
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