1856 flying eagle penny

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ddust, Sep 30, 2010.

  1. ddust

    ddust New Member

    hey guys im not too into coins but my dad handed me down some coins and i did research on it. Its a pretty worn coin a lot of it isnt eligible unless under a magnifying glass. Well im not looking to sell just a ball park of what this would go for. Been in the family for a while. Feed back will be highly appreciated.
     
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  3. coervi

    coervi Lincoln Collector

    If you could get us a picture we could get you a grade and a better est. on the price. And Welcome to CoinTalk!!
     
  4. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    We really need a photo to tell you anything at all. That particular coin is highly counterfeited. The most common method is to alter the last digit of an 1858 FEC. If you post a GOOD clear photo some of us here can instantly tell you if yours is an altered 1858.

    If your coin is genuine it would have some value but that value depends on condition and we cannot estimate the condition without a GOOD photo.
     
  5. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Indeed. Please post a decent, sharp photo, inclusive of the date numerals.
     
  6. igor poddoubnyi

    igor poddoubnyi New Member

    would you tell this is real or not
     

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  7. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    I'm just a newbie, but I'd say fake simple because:

    1) As Hobo stated, it is highly counterfeited,
    2) It is in pristine condition, and
    3) You own the coin and do not know.

    Not trying to be rude, just saying that if anyone owned at $10,000+ coin that was raw (not slabbed) and didn't know it, that would be saying something.

    Where did you get it? Looks like a Chinese fake to me...
     
  8. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Owning raw rare coins is possible. There was a rare find in something like $10 box of tokens in England. It happens - my family would not know what to do with a few of my rarer raw coins. BUT I think it is fake - the lettering looks a little mushy and the central feathers of the eagle seem to be missing. The f is wrong, etc. I am saying fake.
     
  9. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Its toning is kind of "coppery" but everything looks to be in the right places. You really have to look these over good, though.
     
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I would spend the $'s and send it in for certifying
     
  11. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Welcome Igor, If you can get someone ( perhaps yourself) who can take a high definition photo of both sides, it will help us. Sharpness is most important. Counterfeits have been around for a very long time in US and now foreign.

    Jim
     
  12. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    My guess from those pics is counterfeit. The feathers are too weak and the bottom beak appears weak... Better pics may change my opinion... But my gut says no good.
     
  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Not real. The date is wrong, too much distance between the 8 and 5 and the 5 and 6. Shape of the 5 is wrong. The S's are not right, the center serifs if the E's and lower serif of the F is not right.
     
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  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    and Conder would know
     
  15. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    As Condor stated, the date is all over the place. Very sloppy.
     
  16. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    I am confused, is Igor and DDust the same person ? Are these pictures of the coin DDust was asking about ?

    Dave
     
  17. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    Even more confusing is this post was made in 2010. DDust signed on to coin talk than and made his one & only post, (the one that shows up now).

    Dave
     
  18. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Personally, I doubt it matters much since the OP has not been back in 4 years.
     
  19. igor poddoubnyi

    igor poddoubnyi New Member

    No,igor its me ,not a Dust,I only reply on Dust trend with my pictures
     
  20. Argenteus Fossil

    Argenteus Fossil Active Member

    I've seen scams set up this way before.

    A "newbie" or "amateur" offers up an extraordinary example of a very rare and valuable coin asking simple questions to others he believes to be knowledgeable. The scammer is trying to lure in a greedy or unethical buyer. Somebody that will realize this is a very valuable item but not want to tell the "amateur" how valuable, instead make an offer that the victim thinks will come across as high to somebody that is unknowing. The basis of this scam is that the scammer wants to make the victim believe the victim himself/herself is smarter. The scammer will accept the offer and will agree to ship the [coin] upon receipt of payment. Of course the scammer will never send the coin... With my personal experience with this scam, the scammer has been international but dealing in valuable U.S. antiquities.
     
  21. igor poddoubnyi

    igor poddoubnyi New Member

    I think this are cointalk.com,not coinbuy.com,if you fall for such scam it was very naive from you to go for that,now everybody can do study on the web how much cost what,but the question was its real or not,because if this coin fake its cost nothing,and sending to grade its cost money,this why people go to this site because real collector can give advise how to find out its real or not.
     
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