1854 Large Cent Coronet - grade opinions

How's it going?

I am going through my entire collection in an effort to thin it out.
So I will be looking for opinions on the grades of many types of coins that I am not comfortable grading or determining if there are problems. Unless there is obvious damage, cleaning, or other issues.
I want to be confident when giving a grade opinion on all items that will be sold off.

I would like to hear some opinions on this large cent please. What do you estimate it's grade, and do you see any issues/problems. This one appears to be problem free, but it wouldn't be the first or last time I was wrong. It does have noticeable mint luster. At least I think it's luster and not from a cleaning.

Thank you.

 

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I would grade it 40 net 30 for nicks. Surfaces look very original, very nice color.

 

I'm in that 40-45 range on this one. In spite of the nicks, there's plenty of hair detail.

 

I was hoping to hear an AU thrown out there. Wishful thinking!

 

I would be all in for an AU grade, if and only if, those nicks were less...prominent. Don't get me wrong Greg, that coin possesses all the traits of an AU coin.

-Shaun

 

My grade was EAC, I think normal third party it's probably AU. I don't know how third party works on die varieties, but the weakness on the coronet is as struck, not due to wear.

Have you by chance attributed this coin? The obverse is N5/N28, so the attribution would be due to the reverse. Is there a small point inside the C in cent pointing right, how about on the leaf above that C pointing right? Are there any points on the left upright of the N in one pointing up to the left? I blew up your pictures a bit bigger and there looks like there may be those points, but I can't really tell.

The reason I ask about the attribution is N28 is a rare variety and in that grade (EAC 40 net 30) would be worth around $200 and would be tied for CC9. As an N5 it would be an R3 variety with no real premium.

 

Wow beef, thanks for the heads up. I will take a look and see if I can see anything.

 

I appreciate honest opinions Shaun. I wouldn't want to have you over grade to appease me lol.

 

I'm in the 40 camp as well. Not for the nicks but because of the scratch between star 4 and the tip of the coronet. Aside from that it's a very nice coin.
Guy

 

Buddy, I undergrade all your coins, mostly because I'm a little jealous about how nice your pieces are. Lol

 

AU50-Au53!

 

Did we just become best friends?

 

Thanks coleguy and everyone.

 

I'm not seeing any of those you mentioned.

 

If you draw a line between ONE and CENT horizontally, where that line crosses the leaf above the C in CENT, or a little above the line, there appears to be a little point on the leaf. At least on the picture it looks like it.

For these late date, these types of very small points which can really only be some via a loupe, are the diagnostics. Now, if it's an N28, it will also have another point on the middle of the C in CENT, on the inside, which is going in the same direction as the one on the leaf. May be tough to see, you would need a loupe and a light which you can turn the coin under.

If you are going to sell it, and have access to one of the bigger shows I would recommend bringing it to one of the big copper dealers. Someone like Tom Reynolds, Doug Bird, or Chris MaCawely would be able to attribute it for you. It's tough without having it in hand.

 

Beef, thank you for the great description. Another member pointed me to this example.
http://images.goldbergauctions.com/php/lot_auc.php?site=1&sale=62&lot=621

It has a zoom feature and I can see exactly what you are talking about.
Now I know what to look for. I'll check it out.

-g

 

I strongly agree. And if you can't do that they are usually more than happy to try to attribute it from pics for you via email. Old copper people are a very friendly bunch.
Guy

 

And you never know Greg, if it turns out to be the rarity Beef thinks it is, one of those guys might make you an offer to buy. I've worked with Chris McCawley and Shawn Yancey once before in the attributing dept. both great guys and more than forthcoming. Go to their website and shoot them an email.

 

My grade XF-45 , TPG maybe AU-50 . Nice coin and the color looks nice , but I'm no copper expert .

 

I'm with Rusty on this one...

PCGS'd probably 45 it
ANACS might stretch to 50

Lovely piece, Greg