1844 Bank of Montreal Token. Grade??

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  1. jessash1976

    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable

    Hello, This is the second part of my question. I am trying to see what you guys think the grade is on this token. I do have an 1837 version of this same token graded by NGC VF 35 I believe. I am using that coin as an indicator as to what this coin may possibly grade. I know there are varieties of this coin regarding the beaver and the trees. The other one I got graded had one of those varieties posted on the slab. I am trying to find and collectors who know more and can give me an indication as to what they think.
     

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  3. jessash1976

    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable

    Here are the other pics.
     

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  4. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I'd call it VF
     
  5. jessash1976

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  6. jessash1976

    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable

    I don't think so, the other one I have graded is a vf 25 or 35. On that coin the ribbon below the beaver is worn down to a point were the details are hard to make out and the beaver it's self is worn quite a bit. I would have to say it is higher.
     
  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'm at AU something. I love this design.
     
  8. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    I think it's a PC-1B6. Short trees, long nose. I always have trouble distinguishing between the medium trees and short trees, but I think yours are short. I would grade it VF to XF (it would be a PC-1B4 for medium trees)
     
  9. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    I'd say VF as well.
     
  10. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    I would say AU. It has the denticals on the face of the portico. The "A" in concordia has its center. "M" on ribbon looks good. Very nice Coin.
     
  11. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I don't think even North American grading could call that AU. It is simply quite well worn, too worn in my opinion to be EF by British/European standards.
    I have had quite a few of these and it seems a decent but not remarkable example.
     
  12. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Is ther any way you could post a photo of this token that is in better condition than the one in the OP. It would be very helpful to have for comparison.
     
  13. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    They have all passed through and on their way, sorry. I have had better ones, they usually sold to North American buyers.
     
  14. jessash1976

    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable

    I have slab graded vf. I will post it In awhile. You will see the big difference between that coin and this.
     
  15. jessash1976

    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable

    Here is my 1842 Canada 1/2 P PC-1A2 Heavy trees VF35
     

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    jessash1976 Coin knowledgeable

    Here are the rest...
     

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