1833 Half Cent

Thoughts?

 

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Is that real? The strike looks too good to be true but I hope it isn't.

 

Wow, if real, this coin would be a stunner.

 

Don’t worry.

 

Beautiful coin. If it were mine I'd have it authenticated and graded BY PCGS or NGC.
There's so much counterfeit copper and they're getting better at it.

 

Nothing screams fake to me, but it’s such a nice strike I would never trust myself to buy something like that raw. If it is a fake, I would be very curious to see the diagnostics.

 

I don't think it's a counterfeit. I was just suggesting that it be graded because I have a nice 1925 Half Cent that I purchased at a good price so I sent it to PCGS for my own peace of mind. It came back XF-45 and the OP's coin is much sharper than mine. Hope the '33 is authentic.

 

Pcgs states that there is only one die pair. If you look closely at the coin in question you will notice the first star on the right is perfectly formed. Now look at the examples on coinfacts and notice the first star on the right is a bit deformed. Also the hair curls on liberty on the real coin are thicker than on the pcgs example. Im going to lean towards counterfeit on this coin. Well done, but with enough wrong to condemn it.

 

Going off the U in UNITED and several other minor differences I say fake.

 

Pretty coin. If it's fake, it would have fooled me.

 

I think it may be a transfer die counterfeit with some die retooling/design strengthening done.

 

The hair is far too detailed (line wise not strength of the strike) to match an authentic coin IMHO.

 

My thoughts? That is among the most magnificent large cents I have seen. While I am not as schooled in coppers as I am other coins I see too much authenticity in the details to call fake on this one. Striking perfection on display here.

 

It has the details of the proof dies.

 

It's not a large cent, it's a half cent.
It looks too good to be true.
So Larry, if it is from a proof die, than that would
be different than the 1 pair of dies used for the business strikes,
refuting the theory earlier in the thread that it doesn't match the die markers.
It certainly looks real, but it's the finest half cent I've ever seen.
Would have to be authenticated.
The date seems absolutely correct.

 

My first thought was that it's a nice proof. My second thought is that the reverse is not the die used in 1833, which makes it a fake. The proofs and business strikes were all made from the same die pair. I agree with EyeAppealingCoins that the hair is too strong to be authentic.

 

@TypeCoin971793 , is it in your possession or are these pics from a website, etc.?

 

Looks like an excellent fake to me.

 

I thought proof, then I thought fake. Dang...

 

If something seems too good to be true.
Interesting they didn't use a separate proof die.
Good to learn new stuff here.

Let's say it's a superior fake. It gets sent in for grading, they look at the coin for 10 seconds and it comes back authentic, even though it's not. Then what do you do?

Going back to the marker on the star. Could it be an early strike before the star deteriorated on that die pair?
And, what's wrong with the reverse?