1832 & 31' Large Cents Grading/Newcomb opinions?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by p91, Sep 29, 2008.

  1. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    Hi everybody, I have had these nice two Large Cents for a while now and I was wondering if anyone could help me with newcomb & or grading opinions? This 1832 looks to me like a "scarce" N-2 in somewhere around F condition?? I'm new to grading coins and would appreciate some opinions... thank you!

    I will understand if no one has any opinions on the 1831... There are quite a few more than 3 varieties according to coinfacts


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  3. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    if nobody has ansswered you by tomorrow evening, I'll take a look. don't have time right now, but hopefully this bump to the top will help. :)
     
  4. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    I agree with your attribution of the 1832, looks like a N-2 to me too. :kewl: On the 1831, I think it's a N-6 but it's hard to tell with the angle of the shot. Looks like you used a flash? What I do to get a good overhead shot is take the pic outside in the shade, so the light is diffused and comes in from the sides so I can get the lens right against the coin without leaving a shadow and it's bright enough to not need the flash.

    Thanks for bringing this back to the top, LF. ;)

    Ribbit :)
     
  5. Harryj

    Harryj Supporter**

    Not sure of the varieties, I'm not up on them. The 1832 has a little pitting and some corrosion, some would say ungradeable. The 1832 has a full liberty and good detail, I'd say overall in the fine range. The 1831 has more pitting, wear and a little rim damage at the 7 oclock. Again most would say its ungradeable; I'd say somewhere in the good range, Good 4?

    Let me say nice coins!!!!!! and ANACS would slabb both of them.
     
  6. Coinfreak~24

    Coinfreak~24 Active Member

    i will buy it ;]
     
  7. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    Awesome! I'm very pleased that you guys agreed with my amateur assesment of the N2/Fine range coin 1832... NGC's nusmedia guide doesn't list any value for the N2 so what kind of rarity factor does an N2 add over the common newcombs?

    The pictures were taken without a flash, but there was a fullspectrum light overhead... I've been having trouble getting my lighting perfect.

    thanks for everyones opinions!
     
  8. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Well from what I gather it is a 1832 Medium Letters is an R-3 coin from Heritage. I personally believe this is a common variety, just not as common as the others. Just my personal opinion.

    Gotta love large coppers!
     
  9. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    J.D. Wright says:

    R-3, barely scarce but the scarcest 1832. This is the only 1832 to command any premium, and even this one rarely brings more than 1.5X.

    So you pretty much nailed it. ;)

    Ribbit :)
     
  10. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Many folks feel the single most important factor on Early American Coppers is the planchet and its preservation. Many have corrosion and/or pitting, so the few that don't are truly premium coins.
     
  11. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    True, but I also think you need to consider year and variety into the equation. Again personally I think there are plenty of problem free 1830's type coins out there - not all types or varieties. So I think problem free coins in the 1830's bring a very small premium and certain varieties add an additional premium - then combine the two and you might have a larger premium. It is all so complicated that at times I have problems figuring out what I should pay for one. :)
     
  12. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    You betcha.

    My bad... I should have said the planchet quality is "the most important grading factor when considering imperfections other than wear".
     
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