1829 50 Cent Varieties

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  1. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    I recently picked up an 1829 half dollar and only found out that there are a huge number of die varieties when I went to add it to my inventory. I'm not familiar with the Overton catalog system - do we have any Busters on the board who wouldn't mind helping me out?
     

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  3. GeorgeM

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  4. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    And one of my images didn't load right, so I'm reposting it:
     

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  5. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I'm thinking O-108
     
  6. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Not sure about it being an O-108. I can't identify it, but the top of the 5 in fifty cent does not match. I just can't see it good enough in the pictures to attribute it.
     
  7. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Aside from the date, what areas should I get closeup pics of to help with the attribution?
     
  8. LindeDad

    LindeDad His Walker.

    Almost all of them start with the relation of the I and T once you get past the first two over dates. There are a total of twenty combinations for this date.
    BTW there are so many I haven't even done mine.
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  9. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Yours is prettier than mine. Nice.

    Here are 2 better pics of the obverse and a closeup of the liberty band:
     

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  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Well the obverse shows little to no milling so the obverse really would be used second. Then I nice clear shot of the reverse like Lindedad has would be helpful. The I-T relationship is use to eliminate a lot of varieties. In this case I would start with the I-T relationship to get a list of varieties.
     
  11. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    I know little to nothing about Bust varieties. Can you tell me a bit about what to look for in the I & the T? Or point me toward a coin book that I should read through for more info? Thanks.
     
  12. mackwork

    mackwork Caretaker of old coins & currency

  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The right edge of the scroll is directly below the junction of the AM of America. Rev's that match that or are very close are E, H,K, M, & O. The I is almost centered below the T, maybe very slightly left of center. Of those five reverses the ones with matching I/T alignment E, and O. Right upright of the M in UNUM is below the left foot of the right base of the A. That matches rev O, on rev E it is below the center of the A. So I was probably wrong on 108, what do you think of O-119? (clear focused pictures of the coin would help. Shot straight on and take the coin out of the 2X2.)
     
  14. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the attribution link. I was looking at the I & T in 'Liberty' on the obverse - totally in the wrong ballpark.

    Here are some larger pics of the reverse (complete with those ugly scratches):
     

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  15. mackwork

    mackwork Caretaker of old coins & currency

    Based on the link, using your last picture, and using a ruler on my PC screen, I'm leaning towards O-114?
     
  16. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    I agree with that. How does 0-114 rank on the rarity scale?
     
  17. mackwork

    mackwork Caretaker of old coins & currency


    No idea on that. Maybe someone else can tell you.
     
  18. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I am pretty sure yours is O-103

    R-1

    As for the OP:
    If you can take pictures like this I could possibly id it, but not like yours. Too difficult.
     
  19. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    If it is an O-114 it is an R-3, slightly uncommon
     
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  20. LindeDad

    LindeDad His Walker.

    Thanks Frank. BTW if anyone is interested it is a PCGS XF 45
     
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  21. mackwork

    mackwork Caretaker of old coins & currency

    What I based my O-114 guess on, with the OP's last posted picture. I guess it depends on how you draw a line.

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