Considering placing a bid on this 1816 shilling. Any thoughts on what it might grade? I’d probably send it in depending on what the final purchase price turns out to be. Thanks!
Are you certain it is genuine? The upright lion on the reverse shield and the pattern around the shield look different from the other 1816 sixpence I'm looking at. It doesn't seem to have the same level of detail. And this is just an AU reverse.
You are right...especially the pattern around the shield. I’ll do some more digging. Thanks for the heads up!
There are numerous differences between this and the OP's. Assuming yours is genuine, I'd be inclined to think his is not.
This one is graded. One of the reasons I mostly buy graded coins is the large number of fakes in the market. I don’t profess to know every coin and I doubt anyone here can honestly say they can identify all fakes simply by photos. I definitely don’t see any thrill in buying a coin and ‘hoping’ it is genuine when I receive it in the post. Pay a bit more but get the right thing.
I now realize that my originally posted coin is in fact a SIXPENCE and not a shilling. The reverse matches authentic sixpences. I stand corrected. Thanks for the help!
Doh! Haha, nice catch! Edit: it's a lovely coin, I like it at high AU, but wonder if the weakness on the reverse is from the strike and if this could go MS...
HAHAHA A comedy of errors, OP posts a sixpence and calls it a shilling and I post an actual shilling and type in sixpence All this quarantine is messing with us!!! Should proofread what I write
Blimey, I didn't even notice that. I see the cross on the crown is closer to the border on the sixpence - are there any other obvious ways to tell them apart?
That's the problem with early English coins. You had to be able to recognise them from size and weight as they didn't carry any denomination values on them. Having said that, there are some very distinguishing features between the OP sixpence and the reverse of the shilling I posted: The decorative border around the shield is much more elaborate on the shilling. The three lions on the top aren't as close to the centre inset shield. The upright animal on the top right looks like a dragon in the shilling but you could mistake it for a lioness in the sixpence. There is an incuse W just above the N in PENSE in the sixpence but nothing in the shilling. These are just some of the obvious differences you can spot very easily.
