1813 Capped Bust Half Dollar for grading

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  1. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I am at a solid EF-40 with a shot at EF-45. What say you?

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  3. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I wouldn't argue with 45.
     
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  4. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    35. Maybe 40
     
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  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    40
     
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  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'm at 35. Nice coin.
     
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  7. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

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  8. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    I think you're right on. A bit more wear, but nice relatively uncleaned surfaces that I think will be rewarded.
     
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  9. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Are you submitting it?
     
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  10. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I am seriously considering it.
     
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  11. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Vf35. Question. Is a VF. 35 a ligit figure
     
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  12. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Yes, the VF grades run 20, 25, 30, 35.
     
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  13. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Thanks. Ok I'm at 35
     
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  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Agreed. I wouldn't argue with 40 on a good day, but I don't see 45 here. Liberty's hair curls are too flat. Granted, a lot of that is due to the strike, but there's definite wear there.

    On the other hand, the clasp of her gown is so indistinct, there's definitely some strike weakness going on, so ...?
     
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  15. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Yeah I've been comparing to a PCGS 40 I have. The eagle on the OPs coin has more detail than mine. A lot of it probably comes down to remaining luster, I'm thinking 40 now over my earlier guess.
     
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  16. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    There is actually quite a bit of luster on this coin. I always grade early bust halves by looking at the right wing and the luster.
     
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  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I go by hair curls on the obverse and feathers on the reverse, but due to the discrepancy in striking (the reverse so often better struck than the obverse, as seen here), my methodology admittedly has its shortcomings.
     
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  18. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    You can't grade these based on anything other than luster and strike. The way they were struck... each individual date and each die pairing within those dates have a different look. You have to really be an expert in the series to grade them properly or at least, consistently.
     
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  19. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    VF+
     
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  20. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    40

    Do you have it as O-108?
     
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  21. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    That is exactly what I had it as
     
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