1811 Capped Bust Half Dollar Broadstruck

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by TTuck, Mar 11, 2012.

  1. TTuck

    TTuck New Member

    I am trying to find out the value of this broadstruck capped bust half. I was on www.minterrornews.com trying to find the value, but there is no info. A BarbeHalf for a small broadstrike retails at $2,500. Any idea on this one?

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  3. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Well, unfortunately, your coin was not broadstruck. Slight off centers and misaligned dies are typical of this series.F

    So, with this said, what you have is a VF-Details example (problem being rim damage and possible cleaning).

    I'll let someone else determine the Overton variety, as I'm submitting this reply via mobile device and don't have any tools on-hand.

    -Brian
     
  4. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Lettered-edge Capped Bust Half Dollars were not struck in a collar. The blanks were run through a castaing machine which raised a rim and applied the edge lettering. Next the planchets were struck in an open collar. Why do you say this coin was "broadstruck"?
     
  5. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    I believe this is not broadstruck. Value? Maybe $35
     
  6. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Technically a capped bust half CAN'T be broadstruck, or you could say they are ALL broadstruck. The definition of a broadstrike is a coin struck with the collar missing. But the capped bust halves never had a collar.
     
  7. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it


    Trying to decide how to respond to this value..

    Guess one word would suffice


    HUH?
     
  8. GreatWalrus

    GreatWalrus WHEREZ MAH BUKKIT

    I have no idea of its value, but I'd probably pay $35 :)
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    $35? I'll buy it!
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Seems like a bargain to me. :)
     
  11. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I'm wondering what caused the area under the date to look weird and the outer rays on the stars looks stretched. maybe it was doublestruck without any rotation.
     
  12. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    This is caused by the over-use of dies. During the time of these coins' production, dies were over-used, re-used, and recycled in an effort to save money and avoid the hastle of creating brand new dies. As dies age, and as they continue to strike coin after coin, the steel die's design eventually becomes distorted, begins to crack, and large portions of the die may even break off. These various die cracks, breaks, clashes, etc. are what Overton varieties are based off of, including various die states (age of die) and die marriages (pairings of certain dies and hubs).

    Generally speaking, the less "stretching" of design elements, the earlier the die state. And the more distortion visible, the later the die state.

    -Brian
     
  13. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Die erosion. This is VERY common on CBHs.
     
  14. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Well, I wouldn't necessarily classify this anomonly as "die erosion", but it is similar... I suppose.

    A die doesn't have to have eroded in order for the design elements on the subsequently-struck coin to be distorted.

    -Brian
     
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