1798 Large Cent for Grading

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  1. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

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    Yes, this is my coin. Thoughts? ;)

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  3. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    Did it originate from Philadelphia or from Beijing? It looks suspicious...
     
  4. phonz

    phonz New Member

    Well at least it makes for a nice filler
     
  5. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I think if I had the time, I'd be comparing it to real ones to make sure it's indeed real. I suspect it isn't, but mainly because the coin is too darn nice. I will say the denticles on the obverse seem off. They should extend all the way to the rim and it seems weird that they're so widely distributed, but that could just come from my lack of knowledge on the strike diagnostics of these early beauties.
     
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  6. halfcent1793

    halfcent1793 Well-Known Member

  7. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    It would make a very nice bolo tie.
     
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  8. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    'Tis fake. Paid $2 or so.
     
  9. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    Yeah, many of my Zincolns aren't that nice!
    Steve
     
  10. Kim Greenwood

    Kim Greenwood New Member

    I think the berry counts are wrong and in the incorrect location. The letters in Liberty and also the numbers (obverse and reverse) raise a question for me...IMO
     
  11. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    I believe this was colored by our POTUS's cosmetician.
     
  12. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    I kept looking for the word "copy" on it. Should have thought of a Chinese product.
     
  13. redcent230

    redcent230 Well-Known Member

    Looks too good to be real
     
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  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    And I was just getting envious...
     
  15. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    .jpg 1798 28            30 S-180, S-181.jpg
    The most obvious distinction between this and a real coin is the shape of the "extra" curl. That curl at the shoulder "A" was introduced in 1797 and was wide, like a curler rather than narrow like a natural curl. It's shape was similar to curl "B" of the original design. The curl below the ear "C" is also shaped differently. These are design elements of the portrait punch and would not be variant additions at the time of the original minting of Draped Bust Cents.

    I must say that these counterfeits are getting closer to the originals and at some point may not be as easily distinguishable as this one.
     

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  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    How about the easy thing: the shape of the 9
     
  17. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    That is actually getting pretty close to the real thing. The 9 punch broke and left the end flattened. This was overdone in this case, but still getting closer.

    I just zeroed in on the differences in the head punch some other items such as hair detail and lettering varied creating the varieties we know.
     
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