1797 $5

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  1. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    I'm not sure I've ever seen this grade before.[​IMG]
     
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I've seen the grade but can't place the generation of slab.
     
  4. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Special slab label for the collection. Beauty of a coin
     
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  5. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Current generation special label
     
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  6. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Gotcha, hopefully it's more gold in tone. It kind of hard to read.
     
  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Where the hell did you get that? Beautiful coin!
     
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  8. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    It's not mine. It's up for bid at HA.
     
  9. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Oh. Well, stunning coin. Never saw one like that, thanks for showing.
     
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  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    "See? THIS is why you want us to establish a 100-point grading scale! WITH decimals!"
     
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  11. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    "It's not mine" That has to be a first from you @furham. Thanks for sharing.
     
  12. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Do you mean you've never seen AU58+? Or never seen it on this specific coin? For the 1795 $5, PCGS pop report shows AU53+, AU55+, and AU58+. PCGS says ""Plus Grades" exhibit exceptional eye appeal for the grade and constitute the top 30% of the coins in the grade." I've seen AU58+ with a CAC sticker, which amuses me. Here's a link to the auction https://coins.ha.com/itm/early-half.../1359-4536.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515
     
  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Show me one with a gold CAC, and we'll talk. :rolleyes:
     
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  14. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    There are quite a few AU58 on Heritage with gold CAC. Didn't see any AU58+ though. Which is funny in itself - if an AU58 gets a gold sticker, then which MS grade is it really? Kind of off topic though.
     
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  15. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    There is an NGC 58+ as well which went for $305k in 2017. Think this breaks $400k?
     
  16. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Over 3600 struck and only 5 graded total at NGC. Where did they all go?
     
  17. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I see an estimate of 40-50 known 1797 $5, but no explanation for what happened to the rest of them. Melted I suppose.
     
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  18. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Most early (pre-1834) gold ended up in the melting pot. These coins were worth more than face value when they were struck, and likewise traded as bullion. The US Mint continued to use a 15-to-1 silver to gold ratio as the global standard became 16-to-1 over time. By 1834, a $5 gold piece had $5.25 in gold in it - and 25 cents back then was a non-insignificant amount of money with the purchasing power of about $10 now.

    There are half eagles of which tens of thousands were minted and only a couple dozen survived.
     
  19. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It'll 64 or better. On a real bad day, 63, but then the 58 would have imperfections, like scarring or seriously muted luster.
     
  20. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I would take an honest AU58 or 58+ any day over a circulated MS coin below 65.
     
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  21. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Especially if that 58 had good eye appeal. I’ll take a pretty 58 over an ugly 63-4 any day
     
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